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#26 TheLoyale

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:26 AM

That just looks great! You could be a cabinet maker :) How are you able to do so many things? :eek:

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 11:54 PM

Thank you all for your Kind Words, which are highly appreciated. Thumbup.jpg

I Build Custom Wooden Speakers' Enclosures and I do the electronics & wirings too...

 

See this thread for further details:

 

~► http://www.ultimates...hare-our-ideas/

 

You only need to have enough free time and patience...

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► Edited to update the web link due to the new USMB's system.


Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 22 January 2014 - 10:45 AM.


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Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:04 AM

Now my BumbleBeast has Twin Electric Fans,

 

I Erased the Mechanical pulley-driven Fan  :D 

 

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That modification gives some Advantages Such like some Hp Gain + slightly faster engine response and less noisy engine, also makes way easier to service certain parts of the engine's Front, Such as Timing Belts ... Specially if they're Coverless like I run them.

As usual, I Did a Writeup which is plenty of easy understanding explanations of the Procedures and has Clear Photos to guide you Step by Step, if you want to do the Same to your Subie, but the Procedure may also apply to other vehicles.



The Writeup's Link is: ~► Here.



It Includes advantages like where to Find a Slightly Lower Temp Thermoswitch, the Measurements so you will know the Fan's Size that could Fit, other car's Brands parts that works, etc...

 

 

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By the Way, I Run my Carburated "BumbleBeast" Subaru and my Wife's EFI "KiaStein" without Thermostat for Four reasons that might only work at the Caribbean area and similar climate zones of the World:

 

First: Here Never Snows.

 

Second: Climate temperature here doesn't go Too Low, nor Too High;

              is almost always between 14 ºC ~ 36 ºC (57 ºF ~ 96 ºF) Usually.

 

Third: Here is not required to have Catalytic Converters,

           which needs higher engine Temps to work properly.

 

Four: The Car's Engine only takes a couple of Minutes more to reach its

          Normal Operatin' Temps, and beside that, they work normally.

 

Since both cars has electric fans, once it gets to Normal Operating temps, the Electric Fans takes control to don't let 'em overheat, and they Never go Lower (cooler) than 1/4 mark, except when I run A/C ... :D ... Also the heater is Never needed at the Caribbean, so I prefer to not use a Thermostat and thus helps to prevent from air bubbles and stuck thermostat problems, also helps to elongate the Waterpump's lifespan.

 

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Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 22 January 2014 - 11:18 AM.


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Posted 21 May 2012 - 12:33 AM

Lookin good Jeszek!

Ive thought of the twin fan idea in NED, Im just not sure I wanna do the wiring haha.. I do like Stubies_Subie's Loyale though... reads like 1/3 up the gauge MAX (hes got the dual fans)

Ive always worried that it could get TOO COOL, like the engine cant reach its operating temperature correctly?

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 09:02 AM

Since the Twin Fans' Setup and the Lower Temp ThermoSwitch, my BumbleBeast Works at ~Almost~ the Middle Mark on the Temperature Gauge during city drivin' and goes a li'l bit lower on open highways.

Believe me: It was working Cooler with the old Permanent Mechanical Fan, but that mechanical fan caused the Temperature to drop to almost Zero during the very Long Downhills on our Roads... that doesn't happen anymore with the Electric Fans.  :D
 

The Lower Temp Thermoswitch I Used is only 10 Celcius degrees (10º C = 50º F) Lower, but the temperature needle usually stays just a milimeter Below the Middle mark.

The Wiring is pretty Easy, as I explained it all with Pictures in the Writeup.

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Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 21 January 2014 - 01:42 PM.


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Posted 21 May 2012 - 10:29 AM

Nice work on the video and the Beast. Good times! I still haven't gotten around to the dual fan conversion, but it's on my list.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 03:20 PM

Thank you for your Kind words!


My Beloved Subaru "BumbleBeast" this Month of June, 2012 reached twentyseven
(yes, 27) Wonderful Years with us, in my Family; and beyond 300,000 Miles of Good Memories and Growing together.  bananadance.gif


 
This thread is somehow an Index with Web Links of all the Modifications and Improvements I've Done during all these years, to my Beloved Subaru "BumbleBeast"

Why an Index? ... Because each Modification or Improvement has its own Writeup to Cover all the related information, with tons of Pictures and explaining the procedures for each work done; so you can do a Click on the Link from this Index to see the Whole Document.

I Hope my Writeups could be Helpful for others.

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Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 21 January 2014 - 01:45 PM.


#33 Loyale 2.7 Turbo

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 03:29 PM

Now my "BumbleBeast" Features an Excellent

 

Rear Parking Brake (e-Brake) System.

:headbang:

 

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The Parts are Not expensive and Easy to find, plus the Install is Easy for those of us with Mechanical Experience... ;) ...The Complete Writeup with Step by Step explanations, full of Guiding Pictures, could be Reached, Here:

 

~►  http://www.ultimates...rofit-solution/

I Hope this could be Useful...

Please, read it
Completely to Understand the reason Why and How to do that.

Kind Regards.


Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 22 January 2014 - 11:25 AM.


#34 Loyale 2.7 Turbo

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 09:00 AM

Now my Subaru "BumbleBeast" has a Couple of Weeks driving with the Rear e-Brake and it "Feels" So Natural to the Car; works Awesome and is somehow unnoticeable as a modification... even the Park Brake Light Works: everything works Flawlessly!!!  :D

 

 

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Look for more Photos at my Writeup!

 

I'll Like to know What do you Think about the Retrofitting and the Complete Writeup about that on the Link above.

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Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 22 January 2014 - 11:29 AM.


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Posted 09 July 2012 - 09:46 AM

Wow!!! Another AMAZING write up. Great job.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 01:04 AM

Thank you for your Kind words, which are highly appreciated.


My Weberized EA82 Subaru "BumbleBeast" has a High Vibration Accel Superstock 8140 ignition coil (Made in USA) filled with Epoxy instead of Oil, the Nippon Denso Distribuitor worked great with that since year 2006, when I made the Weber carburator swap.

I Use my BumbleBeast 60% on Road as weekdays daily driver, and 40% offroading during weekends, usually to different mountain trips with my family; so the High Vibration Coil was my Choice then...

Different coils does have different Ohms of Resistance or Ω Value, so if the aftermarket coil has different Ω value, it could kill the Ignition module, not because the increased coil's power output; the Risk is by the increased effort done by the ignition Module thru its two wires sent to the Coil, to make that Coil to work, due to its increased Ω resistance.

So, the Accel Superstock 8140 High Vibration 
(Made in USA) Coil has the Following Values:

 

 

...an Accel Super Stock Coil:

 

Primary Resist 1.2 Ohms

 

Secondary 8.9 K Ohms;

 

Turn Ratio 100:1;

 

Max Voltage 42000v;

 

 

And the Stock Nippon Denso ignition Coil has almost the same values:

 

 

I can tell you that the resistance values are very close to stock specs.

Primary=  1.02 ohms

Secondary=between 8 - 12K ohms

But I have no experience using one.

 

 

Since the Accel's coil Resistance Ω Values are Closer to the Stock Coil's Resistance Ω Values, there has never been a problem with that setup.


Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 22 January 2014 - 11:42 AM.


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Posted 21 July 2012 - 01:36 AM

Recently, after almost Seven Years of Running my BumbleBeast with the Accel Superstock ignition Coil, the Ignition Module on the Distributor Failed... More Info, ~► Here; but I changed it with a good used one and the car is Running Fine again...
 

The Module's fail was due to its Age and Use: 27 Years and more than 300,000 Miles: I can't complain at all.  :) 

 

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Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 22 January 2014 - 12:00 PM.
To add the Web Link on the Word: "Here" ;)


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Posted 24 July 2012 - 02:27 PM

The Carburated 2WD (FWD) EA82's came with the Nippon Denso Distributor.

 

The Carburated 4WD (AWD) EA82's came with the Hitachi Distributor.

 

As far as I know, the 2WD Distributors has a Faster acceleration Advance Curve than their 4WD counterparts; I wrote a short writeup about How to Test an Ignition Module, it has easy guiding Pictures as Usual.


You can Reach that Writeup, new.gif Here.

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Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 22 January 2014 - 12:04 PM.
the word "Here" is a Web Link ;)


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Posted 21 August 2012 - 02:48 PM

I have updated my Writeup about the Rear Park Brake Retrofit

 

with aditional information, ideas & photos...

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Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 22 January 2014 - 12:04 PM.
To add some Pictures ;)


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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:07 PM

Have you ever been stuck locked inside your own Car? ... :eek: ...

I was finishing the details of my Rear Park Brake (e-Brake) Retrofit on my "BumbleBeast" and I was seated on the Rear seat when the Door suddenly got closed...

As I have a baby Daughter, I always has the Security Locks placed in order to avoid that she could open the rear Doors from the inside, even without the Locks; so the rear doors won't open from the inside.
... :mellow: ...

All the door's Windows were full rolled up and those are Electric, and I Left the keys on my garage's Table, next to my cellphone... outside! :banghead:

Also, Both front seats were moved to the far front, 'cos I was reinstalling the Center Console back on its place at that very moment, while I was Completely alone at Home...

Since 
I am a Big Guy, 6' tall and over 110 Kg driving an Old Subie Wagon, it wasn't easy to "Slide" myself Between the front seats that were pushed to the far front, and then move and recline the Driver's front seat to get out of the Car... wasn't easy but it was pretty Fun ... :D ...

I thought that I must share that funny experience here, so: Don't left the Keys outside your car, if you're working inside: you might Need 'em on the ignition, especially if your subie has electric windows ... ;) ...

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Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 26 January 2014 - 02:09 PM.


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Posted 24 August 2012 - 02:10 PM

Have you ever been stuck locked inside the Rear of your own Car?

I was finishing the details of my Rear Park Brake
(e-Brake) Retrofit on my "BumbleBeast" and I was seated on the Rear seat when the Door suddenly got closed...

As I have a baby Daughter, I always has the Security Locks placed in order to avoid that she could open the rear Doors from the inside, even without the Locks; so the rear doors won't open from the inside. :-\

All the door's Windows were full rolled up and those are Electric... and I Left the keys on my garage's Table, next to my cellphone... outside! :banghead:

Also, Both front seats were moved to the far front, 'cos I was reinstalling the Center Console back on its place at that very moment... while I was Completely alone at Home.

Since I am 1.80 Mts tall and 240 Lbs. Weight, it wasn't easy to "Slide" myself Between the front seats and then move and recline the Driver's front seat to get out of the Car... wasn't easy but it was pretty Fun :D

I thought that I must share that funny experience here, so: Don't left the Keys outside your car, if you're working inside: you might Need 'em. ;)

Kind Regards.


i've heard people getting locked outside there car but inside:lol:you need to make an extra set of keys to keep inside your car incase it happens again

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:57 PM

Yes ... :) ... 

 

Since that, I Always carry spare keys for my "BumbleBeast"

 

and my Wife's "KiaStein" on my Wallet.

Kind Regards.


Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 26 January 2014 - 02:46 PM.


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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:27 PM

As I already told here, in the very first post of this thread, my Subaru "BumbleBeast" came from California (USA) to my Li'l Country (Honduras) in a Long Trip done in 1985, the subie had only few Miles when the Trip Started... I can't imagine any Better way to break new any engine. The Subie came in a Caravan, Following a fully loaded 18 wheeler truck and followed by a Corolla.

That time the Subie was somehow the "Jewel" toy for my Father
(I was 10 years old then, in 1985) and the Subie stayed untouched and unmodified for its First Seven Years...

But Unleaded fuel wasn't available here
(until 1994) So, the Complex pollution System (you know how Carbureted California cars Came) got somehow "Poisoned" with the Lead and the car slowly started to Fail...


The EA82 isn't a Powerful engine you know, but it felt very Weak after Seven Years burning Leaded Fuel, with both catalytics almost mired and Failing sensors, the Exhaust was irritating the Eyes of the occupants; so after a Ride, all the Passengers came out from the Subie with Bloody Red Eyes ... :eek: ... like if we were Smokin' something, and after a Long trip, we needed urgently collyrium drops for our eyes...


Beside the Gutless feeling and the Poisonous Exhaust, the Subie's engine increased the average fuel Consumption and had to work Harder, always at higher temperatures which risen up if we were Drivin' uphill with some load...

So, in the beginning of year 1993; my dad and I decided to do some Modifications to the "BumbleBeast"... that was the beginning of everything done to this Wagon  :burnout:


Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 26 January 2014 - 03:28 PM.
Underlined Words are Web Links ;)


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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:43 PM

The very first Mod done to my Subaru "BumbleBeast" was done in year 1993: a free flow Exhaust, so we got rid of both Catalytic converters and the Muffler; we used 2" Pipes for all the Exhaust.

 

We removed the Catalytic converter which is inside the junction where both sides' exhausts meet; we Joined both Heads' Exhaust in a simple "Y" and then we removed the Second Catalytic converter, which was located in the pipe between said junction and the Muffler; so now the Pipe goes straight from the "Yto a Custom built "Free Flow" Muffler.

 

Important Note: These engines needs a junction where both heads' exhaust shall join, not for Backpressure, but in order to have the Proper Scavenging effect.


To make the "Free Flow" Muffler, a friend of us which is an expert welder, cutted the metal sheet from an old (1970's) Ford F-150 unrusted Door; wrapped it as a cylinder, then we made a simple Pass-thru design; I was with him along all the Process.

Sorry, No internet nor digital cameras for me in year 1993, but I made a couple of Schematic drawings to illustrate the Idea:

 


 

The Exhaust Pipes:

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The Custom Muffler's interior:


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A Recent Picture:


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That Exhaust is not Loud, (in fact I hear more intake noise with the Weber carb under acceleration, than Exhaust Noise) and the exhaust is Still in Good Shape after all these years.


Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 26 January 2014 - 03:29 PM.


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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:54 PM

The second Mod were done during same year 1993 by the local Subaru dealer, we didn't know for sure how to get rid of the Failing sensors and there was a crowded engine bay, with hoses running like "Spaghetti" everywhere...

So, my dad took the Subie then, to the Local Subaru Dealer's repair shop, and they modified some things, removed a Lot of Pollution Control Stuff, and they Closed the EGR passage; they gave to us, a box full of removed parts & hoses...

With that done, the car felt Way Much Better... My dad took us
(the whole family) to a Long Trip on the Subie to the Neighbour country: "El Salvador" for the whole Holy week of 1993, and the Subie felt even better each mile it Ran... we went to the "El Cuco" Beach there.

No more Bloody Red Eyes nor poisonous exhaust, also no more High fuel consumption, plus the Engine felt more Powerful, the Subie ran way cooler and felt really Faster than it was. :burnout:


Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 26 January 2014 - 03:29 PM.


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Posted 04 September 2012 - 10:05 PM

In december 1994 one head gasket failed; it was "Blowing" outside the engine the coolant, only at Operating Temperatures (warm), from a point under the engine where the head meets the block, nearby the Exhaust port... the only way I could find that, was to crawl under the Subie to inspect the engine when it was off and cool; then I found a very "Clean" area right there: the Hot coolant coming out, came as Vapor which cleaned said Area, and that is the Reason why it was very Hard to find the leakage. 

 

In january 1995, my dad needed to do an important errand, going on a trip in the Subie and I advised him to avoid using the Subie 'till we fix it first, because it was loosing coolant; I needed to obtain the New Head Gaskets first, but he didn't agree, he said...

 

"I'll refill it with the engine Running"

 

...and he did that.

What a Bad idea, we had no previous experience with aluminium engines, so when the EA82 was overheating, he tried to refill the Radiator with fresh water on the Road, and that sudden temperature change, Cracked one of the Heads
... :banghead: ... to the point that the valves were stuck, loose somehow, on said broken head.

The subie came back still moving by itself 
... :eek: ... with an Horrible sound and Shaking, but it did the Trip, which I consider Beyond Awesome for the EA82.

After that, we changed Both Heads on the Engine, and we learned that there are Three (3) Generations of Heads for the EA82.

My "BumbleBeast" runs with the Gen 3 Heads since then.


Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 02 February 2014 - 09:18 AM.


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Posted 04 September 2012 - 10:16 PM

Let me Show you how you'll identify the Three

 

Different Heads' Generations for the EA82 engine:

 

 

~► Gen 1 - EA82 (Written alone, those came in the earlier Engines)

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~► Gen 2 - EA82 (Written underlined, those came on the newer engines)

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~► Gen 3 - [EA82] (Written inside a Box)

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The local Subaru Dealer told us (My Father and I) when we purchased the New Heads Long Years Ago, that those (Third Gen ones) Never came Stock, those were improved Replacement Heads, also some other USMB Members said the Same here, as you can read:

 

All Gen 3 heads fit... Gen 3 heads btw, were not put into any production vehicle to my knowledge...

 

 

gen 3 heads were only installed in at dealer ships no car came with them from the factory thus why they're uber rare

 

 

... And as far as Gen 3 heads, there's nothing different about their fitment, but they are almost impossible to find as they were only availible from the dealer after EA82T production had ceased...

 
 
Here, Some explanation on the Heads:

~► http://www.ultimates...eration-3-head/
 

... the Gen3 heads have wider valve spacing in the head, which helps reduce the cracks that appear between the seats. They also have thicker casting in the exhaust port area, where these heads are notorious for cracking and leaking coolant. Generally speaking, they are an overall better casting of the same head.

 
 
Also, I found this Video of Prototype DOHC EA82 Heads!

 

 

 

 

Those will improve any EA82 for Sure.

 

 

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There is a Discussion Thread about the DOHC EA82 Heads, Here:
 
~► http://www.ultimates...-ea82-aviation/


 

Kind Regards.


Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 26 January 2014 - 04:01 PM.
To add the Link for the DOHC EA82 Heads' Discussion Thread.


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Posted 04 September 2012 - 11:21 PM

wow i learn something every time i go on this thread so glad i subscribed the first time i saw it

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 09:04 AM

Thank you for your Kind words...

 

I really Hope these Ideas might Help some other Old-School Subaru owners.

Kind Regards.


Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 26 January 2014 - 04:03 PM.


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Posted 05 September 2012 - 02:45 PM

...the Local Subaru Dealer's Garage ... modified some things ... and they Closed the EGR passage...

 

They Said that the EGR Design was not "Healty" for the EA82, and Subaru confirmed that.

 

How?

 

 

...Our local Subaru Dealer told us ... that those were improved Replacement Heads...

 

Well, The Third gen Heads Does Not have the EGR passage, they're Sealed from Factory.

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Edited by Loyale 2.7 Turbo, 26 January 2014 - 04:03 PM.






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