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#1 SubSandRail

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Posted 15 September 2003 - 11:31 AM

Thought I'd get things started with a few items.

SUBARU TO THE RESCUE - Can't remember the names of the crew that went in after the ATV guy that broke his leg (right femur). He pulled into camp, folded down the rear seat of his Subaru, piled in pillows, and turned it into an ambulance. I tossed him my first aid kit as he tore out of camp. Four guys lifted him into the Subaru and got him to the entrance of the ORV park. Ken radioed up to some guys on the 311 who could reach out to someone closer to town with cell phone coverage. The Bonney Lake and Wilkeson fire & rescue teams showed up and took over his care. They shut down the entrance so everyone had to wait for the helecopter to pick the guy up. He was in his 40's and his buddies said that he had just recovered from two ankle surgeries and bought the ATV as a present to himself. The leg looked awful. No protruding bones, but it was bent at a 45° angle. I took some pictures, then talked to a fireman and he agreed to get some better shots of the helecopter. I'll get them developed and posted later this week.

BROKEN SANDRAIL - I was able to do a lot of the 311 trail but sheared all four bolts connecting my drive shaft to the diff at the Big Rock (most people will know it, it's the one on the lower steep part that is 3" taller than everyones diff). This caused my chain to jump off, destroying the clutch linkage and neutral sending unit. (it's a motorcycle-powered sand rail for those who were not there to see it). See attached photo for a close up of the broben parts. I had replacement nuts and bolts and was able to get to the final steep part by revving up the engine in neutral, them jamming it into first. Motrocycle transmissions tollerate that more that car transmissions. The final part, some nut jumped on the back to give me traction, and got the ride of his life. I have no idea how he held on as I bucked and bounced up the trail. I got half way up the final steep part before I had to give up and get a tow. It was to steep to jam it into first and keep theengine from dying. Next trip - disk brakes and better tires.

QUESTION - Ken made it up the 311 unassisted. Did a hatch make it? Also, is there an advantage (on the trail) of the 5 speed D/R vs 4 speed D/R tranny?

Thanks for letting me tag along, and thanks for the tow Ken.

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#2 ezapar

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Posted 15 September 2003 - 11:59 AM

Good to meet you Mitch.
Your little sand rail is pretty cool.

That was Austin's buddy Mike with the wagon who rescued dude with the broken leg.

Ken's brat did make it up upper 311 pretty easily, I was riding shotgun.

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Posted 15 September 2003 - 01:10 PM

The name is Mike. (No big deal)

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Posted 15 September 2003 - 01:33 PM

Most people seem to agree that there isn't much to be had from changing to the 5 speed for off-roading. Since your in mostly 1st or 2nd out there. For freeway there is definately an advantage, as you can get better acceleration.

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Posted 15 September 2003 - 02:06 PM

Are the first 4 gears on the 5 speed the same as the 4 speed, or are they different ratios? The VIN decoder sheet does not have enough info.

If everyone agrees that you don't get much by converting to the 5 speed, that would indicate that 1st and 2nd are the same or nearly so in both tranny's. Does anyone have the actual ratios?

After seeing these Sub's in action, I may have to get one.

EVAN's CREEK - Does anyone know when the snow hits Evan's Creek? I am going to fab a pair of skis to replace my front tires. I'm hoping to get out there in the snow before the ORV park is closed for the season. If it does not work out, I'll drill extra holes for mounting on a Subaru and recruit an unsuspecting GL owner to be the test pilot.

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Posted 15 September 2003 - 02:16 PM

HAHAHA CRAZY NUT Austin:D

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Posted 15 September 2003 - 03:42 PM

Who was the nut in the RX turbo sedan that tried to take on the hill that flipped the jeep at the top of the 311? ( don't take "nut" the wrong way)

Did anyone get a photo of the flipped jeep?

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Posted 15 September 2003 - 04:03 PM

That was austin, and it was a Turbo XT he did it in.

Also, I got plenty of pictures of the flipped samurai. I'll scan them tonight when I get off work :-)

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Posted 15 September 2003 - 04:26 PM

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Posted 15 September 2003 - 05:52 PM

:-p It was so great to see you all. Hope everyone made it home ok. I know we had a blast and i have a TON of pictures, jared or brian, drop me your address if you want any of these hard copies. they're pretty sweet. Take care guys!!!
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#11 GeneralDisorder

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Posted 15 September 2003 - 06:19 PM

The first 4 gears are not the same - 4th is about the same as 5th on a 5 speed. The first two are shorter on a 5 speed too.

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Posted 15 September 2003 - 07:30 PM

From what i have heard from ken and eric stick with the 4 spd tranny for off road, better gearing and the 4th gear in the 4 spd is better for climbing hills at speed on the highway.

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Posted 15 September 2003 - 09:57 PM

Also, Jared... YOU NEVER GAVE ME BACK MY PILLOW!

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Posted 15 September 2003 - 10:06 PM

4th gear in the '83/'84 tranny is 0.79, earlier D/R is 0.89 or something. Most of the 5 speeds D/R's have a 0.79 5th (from what I've seen)

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Posted 15 September 2003 - 11:12 PM

does the 1st gear in the 4spd make up for the 5 spd's better low range ratio?

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Posted 16 September 2003 - 12:27 PM

Somewhere we had a post about the different ratio's over the years. There were certain tranny's that are better than others as far as ratios. Not sure what happened to that post, and I think that the archives are kinda in limbo right now, too.

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Posted 16 September 2003 - 02:48 PM

that the 5spd would give you an advantage on the street for the ride home after 4wheeling but the 4spd would be just as good off road.

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Posted 17 September 2003 - 10:15 PM

I have a five speed dual range out of an 86 wagon and it has the lowest ratio out of the 5 speeds. It did great at evans. I dont use 5th gear to much any more but thats cause I dont like going real fast with my big tires.

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Posted 22 September 2003 - 11:24 AM

Attached is a photo of the rescue chopper at Evan's Creek, picking up the guy with the broken leg.

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