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eppoh, I almost feel your pain Whereas most things we may have timed were on TDC the Subaru does it differently because of the tendency of one or another bank to flip due to valve spring pressures on the cams. Most folks haven't configured a tool to Hold a cam sprocket. There Are all those marks and they all mean something but they can't be mixed. I think it should be said outright to remove the sparkplugs and make sure the engine goes thru four rotations before trying to start it. i thought I knew what I was doing until binding at #1. I Knew where TDC was! It just isn't clear until reading thru this board and the tech advise that it's off by previous reasoning. Others here do it in their sleep because they really Know these engines. good luck.

At some time somebody should know the designers of the 2.2. It was So good they were able to jack it up. These guys really did well for many of us. Everyone Knows Porche and flat four air -cooled. These watercooled flat 2.2 powerhouses are unique and there is a story about that. We should know some names.

I just want to chime in and offer congrats. Decent machines!!!!

What you checked and ANY engine would fire unless off time and even then be more a clue. Something the ECU sees tells it not to allow the intensity of spark required directly after it may start. Code check time. I wonder is some relay which powers the starter falls off to a bad contact and defeats ignition.

Good information To the question by Twitch, I saw my observances as redirecting the intent of the origional post to something where I was displaying my guts about things. So the entire thing was smashed and deleted. That way it is less ...something. I wouldn't know any more about cutie car than anyone else here.

when you say "yous" it's like yous guyz in chicago. I'm fed up with chicago politics running a Nation. can't say anything. i'll delete this if I'm not deleted 1st.

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1-3-2-4 I'm not trying to blow wind in your direction nor waste your time. The removal of HT wires often results in internal breakage and the spark delivered is there but incorrect. i think your course of replacing wires and plugs(even those cheap NGK,gapped properly) will put you on a course which is at least diagnosible, if not remedy. : (Editted because actually got the firing order wrong in a reply.I cannot excuse this when the guy's Name is the firing order.) No hidden message just stupid preview.Dang

You did your searches and I'm still going to be an ......le I couldn't conceive that different materials present and wear differently at rpms at different temperatures. Not to be concerned with over many miles yet there are differences which the belt has to adjust to. Over and over so ideally they would all be same composition and similar wear. no friends, whatever.

Yeh . Sure the plug. That system delivers a tremendous kick and is going to find ground somewhere. If it finds it in the plug gap fine but it isn't the proper duration or power as designed. It is higher voltage than normal and could result in that hosed plug. The other thing is some cars don't tolerate this at all. I was surprised, being new to Subaru that folks unplug spark plugs while running. That is instant death to some for they self destruct. I editted because after taking another look at that plug, i realise it's one of those pointy@** deals and the gap looks like TOO much. The deposits look like Extreme heat. Normal meter won't register this. An O'scope or big box could tell the ... well yes the new stuff too. Tell what sort of voltage pulse was higher than the others.

Just remember, the same power should be at the ignitor at all times or leaving the coil pack. so Higher resistance by a bad conn or wire results in a Higher voltage at the plug. Which could burn it up when it's not at fault.

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Happy Easter:):):)

psssst. Hey John.. we just got roses for Easter because she rang back:)

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Okay. I was entering the parking lot of a big new BJ's and a woman was standing there and I parked and somehow one of us said Subaru and matched tires. Turns out they were a regular Subaru family with Foresters and Legacies and Outbacks sprinkled all thru years of kids and driving. We were at the Tire area and she was getting something done or checking on a future sale. Very smart and nice person related to me about the recent winter, the recent winter where she was all concerned about herself and daughters in the intense snows. She told how Hummers (anyway that's what she said) were stuck or wrecked but her and her girls gingerly went around stuff in their Subies. Good stuff and buying good tires for them:)

I don't mean to take away from.. then it's a great idea but i can't say it. Anyway it's :cool: We have seen some women on here who are awesome tackeling projects with their cars then going off to work. Among these you've met are others who will greet you. These cars are finely engineered and smooth. i'm an older male and do not pretend to know except we share the appreciation for these cars.

Take the previous advice. Season it with our respect for You, your Daughter and her Man.

nuttin

Good. Whatzis "MY" reference? i don't get around much.

Particularly informative diagrahm/pic Nipper. This is going to help those who follow it. I wish I could be of service like this. Fairtax opening up these topics and solving them. You guyz are de Best.

FWIW before replacing my thermostat I put both the orig Subie and the new one in a pot. The deal is to suspend them, I thought, so they were suspended by a small wire on a cross piece so they only contacted water. Idea is to not have the element directly upon the pot base, only reacting to liquid temp. I saw the Subie was slower to react than the Stant replacement. I took a relatively longer time for the old OEM to reach maximum opening. I kept the temp around 190-200 for the test. I found also the OEM closed slower, it was Very slow motion compared to the replacement. I put the new one in and it has been okay. The orig was old but there were differences in how they respond.

Oh Man.:-\ What if the oil pressure was clogged upstream someway and all the pressure was put thru the crank? With no relief. OTOH if perchance the compression entered the oil hole to lube the cams...what may happen? So it could be interesting to attach a pressure guage beyond the crank and see if it pulses. that's probably,well you know. I have no doubt the seal was right.

Ok F50, I'll mark that. Yeh LT GRN and YEL on sides. Shows only as One diode dude. Waita minute,, might be like the Haynes and other manuals. That is it's present in both starting and engine control so they just go to "diode" box from yellow wire. Then the engine c side shows it. It's about tblshooting from different ends and know you end up at that same diode on the lt grn.