thanks guys i think its gona be a fun build it is gona have a back hatch but it will be out of tubing mostly to hold the spare tire unfortunitly i have to put it back in storage till i finish my scout build im at the end just need to wire it and install the cooler lines the radiator hook up all the gauges and since its gona be my tow rig i dont need to put the cart before the horse and besides i need some dom tube for the cage seeing as how i plan to have this rig upside down more than once and a pile of cheap tube for the rest of the rig im ether goma buy a new welder or fix the broken mig welder at the shop or fix the big lincon 220 arc with the hopes of geting beter welds the mig is converted to a low amp 110 arc welder thats very picky as to what brand and type rod used it works but thats about it i cant wait to cut more off and start laying tube and prep the axles un fortunitly i only have dana 30s for the front but i have 3 of them and with the light wait and low powerd suby they should hold up fine considering i wheeled hard with a d30 on the scout with over 400hp and only changed ujoints after every wheelin trip and im planing on running 33s and maybe 35s but only time will tell and i have a bunch of 33s but i would like to run the same tire size on the scout so if need be i could swap tires around and im planing on running 35s on the scout so ill see what money is like once there both up and running