bheinen74 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Friday night I took amtrak out to Denver to pick up BigAls' hatchie he had forsale. Amtrak broke down 2 times, we were without a conductor for a half hour while a rested one showed up. Saw the Lunar eclipse this morning on the way into Denver, 4 hours late... Picked up the hatchie from Alex. Looked things over good, got gas, aired the tires, checked oil etc. I brought like 3 of the most common failing items with me: Dizzy, alternator, and a alt/water pump pulley belt.... Took it pretty easy the first 60 miles, getting used to the car, watching guages good, etc, seeing how it was going to do. About 100 miles in, felt pretty comfortable, til I was keeping up with the other traffic. Then around 130 miles, ut oh,... Problem: I ease up on the gas after passing a car, cause a truck is up ahead, mind you i am now going along at 70-75mpg. But, when i let up the gas, no throttle cut, I try pulling up gas pedal with foot, it is up. I glance over and there is a off ramp, so i look for any cars clear, quick shoot over to the ramp, turn ignition off, clutch in, coast to the stop sign. I decided i would try one restart, and full throttle, so immediately off it goes. I pop the hood, look at throttle looks good. Take off air cleaner top, see black plastic shreds, shards of black plastic. Look over to what was the air suction reed valve. proceed to clean what i could see of the top of the air cleaner. one more start, full throttle still. There is a sidewalk there at the exit and a station downhill about 1/4 mile, this turns out one of the sterling exits. So, I push it up the sidewalk, and proceed to roll it with me in it down the sidewalk, to the right turn, to the station, and into a parking spot, it rolls downhill well. So, what do i do? Well, I get the flashlight out. I have spot in daylight to work at the station. Pull off the air cleaner housing, associated hoses. It hardly works without jarring it. I can see more bits of plastic holding the throttle plates almost full open, well yeah i knew it would start and free to about 4200rpm so not 100% full. So i get my axle roll pin punch out, and some pliers, and push, down into the carb whatever makes the throttle close again. start it to give it a try, yay it has idle speed back again. Look over at what is left of the air suction valve. it is melted goo off the side. Pull it off. Give dad a call, ask him what he knows about the air suction reed valve. He doesn't know, but all I know is there is exhaust gases that shoot out, hot, not good, so what do I do? Yep, the QUARTER trick. block it off. I had the tools to do it with me Anyhow, That took like 1.5 hours to fix. Drove it home the remaining 620 miles, watching guages, checking stuff quite often. I just pulled home about 1:30 AM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Abides Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I just told my brother to go check that out, but i knew if it was a rust free hatch in the colorado area you would snag it. By the way, didnt happen unless theres pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) Ben I am going to go to my bed and die for like a day now. It is not rust free, it is missing some of the front side rail, and some on the back passenger quarter in front of the tire. The repair job got me all good and greasy, and no good handsoap, and the restrooms at truck stops never got me all good and clean. I looked like amess whenever going in to pay for gas. Next trip, I will take orange hand cleaner.... k, off to go die for some sleep, oh, and I have a good air suction valve from my BRAT when i webered the BRAT, but one is NOT going back on the hatchie, or any car i have. The full throttle while going 75mph and needing to slow down could have been much worse, and i am not gonna have one fail again. Edited December 11, 2011 by bheinen74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Wow, glad you were able to get stopped safely. Never heard of that valve. Scary it just melted. Glad to hear everything else ran ok, she always felt solid. Really exited to see your progress on her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Also, didn't know she would do 75. Impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 melty changing oil and filter now, oil is draining right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1982gl4 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Sounds like an eventful trip. Glad it made it. Gives me hope for when I buy one of these from far away from here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 melty Holy ************! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamCF Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Oooo, thats ugly! Glad you were able to fish out all the bits. And this makes me glad I did the quarter mod years ago. Best $.50 I've spent on it it seems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 already changed the tires. Fronts were good, but backs not as good. Now they all match perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Abides Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Ok, so what are the plans. I know, swap everything from teh brat to the hatch and beat that thing up on the trails. ON a side note, its nice to see a fresh picture of my future wagon in the backgrount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 just unloaded the spares. time to clean out the garage again and get my labeling skills worked on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratman18 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 So arte you going to fix the rust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share Posted December 12, 2011 (edited) So arte you going to fix the rust? I am going to plan to fix the rust once spring thaw is here. rockers have some rot already starting to come on good. Main thing is to get some new seats in the front for now, and address the interior cosmetics, and replace whatever is bad, broken or missing. It has a junky new, but reman axle is front that is wobbly, so that has to go ASAP. And, it has a bearing going out on the passenger rear. It got somewhat worse on the drive back, and I can move the wheel hub with the car on ground slightly, and it is more noisy at first goes away some when driving. Even though it would not pass CO emissions, it runs rally strong and healthy down the road, so the carb will not be touched, unless the particles from the ASV cause issues later. Edited December 12, 2011 by bheinen74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the sucker king Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 That is not the air suction valve. It is a silencer or resonator. the ASV is contained in a rectangularish metal case further down the line from the resonator. just so you know..... BTW I have that resonator if you need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Star Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Congrats on the new hatch. Instead of replacing that stuff, you could just delete it all and cap off the spacers on the exaust manifold. BUT, idk if its the same rules for emissions where you are at. Here in WA my '85 no longer has to do emissions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamCF Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Congrats on the new hatch. Instead of replacing that stuff, you could just delete it all and cap off the spacers on the exaust manifold. BUT, idk if its the same rules for emissions where you are at. Here in WA my '85 no longer has to do emissions. I have them capped on my '83 GL. Passes here in Oregon no problem with all that gone. Only emissions garbage left on it is the EGR, PCV, and cat. (We have to still test all the way back to 1975) Of course it's an "at your own risk" type of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share Posted December 12, 2011 No no emission here. I have a good one off my old brat before i webered it, on the shelf. I would like to not have to use one, if the cats won't get damaged without. This car has new cats now. I also think the reason it didn't pas emission in CO was due to this shortly failing. It sure melty on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 Just ordered 2 new hatch strut cartridges for the rear lid...... hope they are the right ones and work, already have 2 times now where had to prop open the back glass and don't plan to have to prop it ever again once these arrive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbrat Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Just ordered 2 new hatch strut cartridges for the rear lid......hope they are the right ones and work, already have 2 times now where had to prop open the back glass and don't plan to have to prop it ever again once these arrive. not sure if it was on the hatch I used to have, or wagon, but when I got the new rear hatch supports, I have to transfer over the mount piece to the new support... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted December 18, 2011 Author Share Posted December 18, 2011 ^ ah gonna Sachs i say. That is the brand, 12.65 each. BTW, on my 94 LGTwagon, the rear struts on it now are both "Rights" I was able to make a right one work even on the left with some bracket flipping. So, I suppose it will be on the old brackets welding to the new struts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 still waiting on the strut cartridges, even thought the tracking still today shows estimated delivery dec 21:( Picked up a set of 02 WRX impreza seats today for the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1982gl4 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Awesome, I'd be putting wrx seats in my wagon if I hadn't found those recaros for practically nothing. I was also a little worried I may not have enough headroom with the added hight from those seats. I'm interested to see how they look in there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanurys Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Nice recovery. My valves were starting to melt just after I bought the car. When I rebuilt my ea82 I capped off the ASV ports on the heads. I think it even runs better. I kept the important stuff (EGR, PCV system, Cat) both for engine health and environmental friendliness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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