Jman1991 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) so my 1993 loyale died on the freeway and i had to have towed to my parents house, amd have been trying to figure out the issue... it is getting fuel, the battery is good, its getting spark, i checked the timing belts and still it wont start. i did notice a small part located directly behind the thermostat that has a small tube going in to it that was broken. i took it to the auto part store and they could not seem to find out what it is. i also called a couple subaru mechanics and they could not tell me what it was either. if anyone can help me figure out what the part is or some other advice on what might be going on with my suby it would be so much help! i will post a picture of the part. Edited February 19, 2016 by Jman1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Dawg Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 That is called a purge valve silonide what it does I don't really know. i have had one of those break too.. but I never died... i had mine die on the freeway once it sounded like the timing belts slipped misfiring etc.. it turned out to be the screw fell out of the rotor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee2 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) so my 1993 loyale died on the freeway helps to know how it died. --Was it sudden ? Possible electrical problem --Did it do a hurt dance as it died ? Possible fuel problem --Smoke and noise ? Possible mechanical problem Check your computer for codes ? Possible environmental control problem Does the engine turn over now ? --yes, Possible timing problem, check to distributor --no, Possible battery / alternator problem Edited February 19, 2016 by Dee2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman1991 Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 It dose turn over Dee2. And I took it down to the timing belts and made sure one cam was at 12 the other at 6 and the flywheel at top dead center. So the timing is all good. When it died I had my music really loud so it's hard to say what the engine sounded like but it did sputter for a second before it died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman1991 Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 Thanks Len dawg. I'll check the rotor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naru Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Plug the disconnected vacuum lines. It will probably start. All the solenoid does is to allow the engine to purge gasoline vapour from the charcoal cannister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman1991 Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 Naru I'll try that. Also I realized I had a couple plugs connected that are not supposed to be. One is green and the other white they are located by the windsheild wiper motor, it sounds like one is for setting the timing and the other for ecu codes.I hope that having them plugged in didn't mess up my car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 The plugs won't hurt anything. They are for reading codes from memory and clearing the memory. Just unhook them. I replace the solenoids with Toyota ones, since they don't break, or fail. +1 what others wrote regarding figuring out why it died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman1991 Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 Thanks DaveT. What year and modle Toyota would have a erg selonoid that would work for this loyale ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR_Loyale Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) Did you take the distributor cap off and see if the rotor rotates when you crank it? Also wiggle the rotor gently to ensure the screw is holding it. Edited February 19, 2016 by MR_Loyale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I will put a link to my Subaru mods page when I get home tonight. The Toyota model is not critical. They were using them at the same time frame as the GLs, 1988 ish. I have the very same solenoids in my current EA82s, that is how long the have lasted. I did modify the mounting brackets, and replace the connectors to mate with the Subaru harness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Here is the link:http://www.dynahoedave.co.nf/solenoid.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman1991 Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 Thanks DaveT I'll check out that link when you post it. Would this solenoid being broken keep my loyale from starting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naru Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Thanks DaveT I'll check out that link when you post it. Would this solenoid being broken keep my loyale from starting? Depends which port is broken. If it is the one going to the intake manifold,then quite possibly. If not,then no. I think(not 100% sure) the steel port is the one connected to the manifold,so probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman1991 Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 Well I pulled off the distributer cap for the second time for another look and it turns out that the set screw had completely fallen out! So even though it was spinning it was spinning freely and preventing the car from starting! Problem solved! !! And also I found a working solenoid at pull and save and the engine ruins better than ever! Thank you soooo much everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Dawg Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Yep.. LOL I had the same problem.. thats why i suggested it.. I went as far as changing my belts even though everything lined up.. I was suprised myself when mine fell out.. even though I did a tune up 6 months earlier that was the last thing I thought was wrong.. AAAHYEeeeeee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR_Loyale Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Well I pulled off the distributer cap for the second time for another look and it turns out that the set screw had completely fallen out! So even though it was spinning it was spinning freely and preventing the car from starting! Problem solved! !! And also I found a working solenoid at pull and save and the engine ruins better than ever! Thank you soooo much everyone! Those screws are made of soft metal and can become stripped. You can order a replacement from Subaru for cheap. Why they made it with a set screw I will never understand. Even American cars of the 60's had snap on rotor designs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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