ausubaru92 Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 I was just reading on the website for RAM Engines and they claim 140hp from a NA ea81. They use dual port heads and tuned intake and exhausts can these heads be put directly on a ea82 with out any special stuff other than a intake to suit and a dual port exhaust header??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Nope EA81 - OHV EA82 - OHC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archemitis Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 big$$ anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 you could build/buy a RAM engine and replace the EA82 (and give it to me as a whole) with the built EA81. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 I was just reading on the website for RAM Engines and they claim 140hp from a NA ea81. They use dual port heads and tuned intake and exhausts can these heads be put directly on a ea82 with out any special stuff other than a intake to suit and a dual port exhaust header??? You know the way to horsepower is to spin the engine to higher RPMs while keeping the torque curve from sagging. What RPM does the quoted HP-peak occur at? I have heard aero-people talk about 8-9k RPM... do you want to run this fast on the street, with resultant narrow powerband? I might... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craven Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 You know the way to horsepower is to spin the engine to higher RPMs while keeping the torque curve from sagging. What RPM does the quoted HP-peak occur at? I have heard aero-people talk about 8-9k RPM... do you want to run this fast on the street, with resultant narrow powerband? I might... This is a quote from http://www.ramengines.com/ 140hp@5700\140lbs torque@3400 RAM Ea81 MPEFI Dualport Craven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 This is a quote from http://www.ramengines.com/ 140hp@5700\140lbs torque@3400 RAM Ea81 MPEFI Dualport Craven Thanks. This also implies a rather broad torque curve, with 129ft-lbs of torque at HP peak, 92% of T-peak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausubaru92 Posted December 21, 2004 Author Share Posted December 21, 2004 ive also noticed in my Gregory's manual, that the firing order is, looking from front of engine,... Front Left, then Rear Left, then Front Right, then Rear Right. Which means that two exhaust pulses travel down the same header directly after each other then there is a space of two where there is no movement down the pipe. So is this setup benifical to the scavanging effect or would a seperate exhaust pipe from each cylinder be better??? (RAM Engines claims that the secret to the high power in these engines is tuned intake and exhaust pipes which has an air ram effect) Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 ... So is this setup benifical to the scavanging effect or would a seperate exhaust pipe from each cylinder be better??? (RAM Engines claims that the secret to the high power in these engines is tuned intake and exhaust pipes which has an air ram effect) Thanks It all depends... In general, individual runners/pipes will give better result then "siamesed" runners/pipes. The length of the runner/primary pipe determines what rpm will be optimized, and the straighter the pipe and the fewer cross-section changes the pipe has, the sharper the effect will be at the target rpm, giving a strong but "peaky" torque band. If you primarily want an increase in torque, then a tri-Y header with small diameter primary pipe usually works best. If you want raw horsepower, you choose a 4-into-1 with larger primaries. The stock EA81/EA82 does little or nothing to optimize exhaust scavenging, and the intake does even less. A little bit of work on both would probably give some good gains. Running un-siamesed ports and individual runners would net even more. What I would like to do is build a pipe that has a separator that extends into the exhaust port, and run individual primary pipes into a tri-Y. Lots of work, and probably require stainless steel for the separator. The other thing is that tuned length really isn't about "ram" effect, but using transient positive and negative pressure waves to enhance valve operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 i've visited and talked to Ron, they have an awesome operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganM Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Yep, RAM rules and we've gone over this 1000 times.... nobody here wants to throw down that kind of cash to put one of those engines in a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myxalplyx Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 nobody here wants to throw down that kind of cash to put one of those engines in a car. *Bingo* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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