June 19, 200619 yr Saw this '95 Legacy wagon on ebay this morning. Appears to be in very nice condition and gets absolutely fantastic miles-per-gallon! (see the second sentence in Vehicle Description.) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-Subaru-Legacy-L-All-Wheel-Drive-Wagon-50000-Miles_W0QQitemZ4652843094QQihZ002QQcategoryZ31869QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I sent the dealer an email chiding him for his "honesty." Got the following reply: Sorry my friend, my father drives 50-55 MPH on the highway and has many documented receipts of that mileage. Maybe I should buy that car . . . then get his father to teach me how to drive!
June 19, 200619 yr in my 98 leagcy if i drove like a sane man i would sy 30-38 mpg. Too bad im crazy:banana: nipper
June 19, 200619 yr Actually, regardless of the mileage claims, that Leg is so low mileage as to be prectically new! Too bad I'm in the midst of recovering from our move, or I'd probably bid on it!
June 19, 200619 yr That one looks just like mine except mine is a darker blue, very nice shape! I could see myself bidding $2500 on this car quite easily. I haven't gone through more than 1/2 a tank of gas in my car so far, what kind of gas mileage should I be expecting? I purchased the car with the expectation of at least 30 MPG. I drive about 65-70 on the highways for about 20 minutes then another 5 minutes of city driving each day on my way to work and then back home.
June 19, 200619 yr Actually, regardless of the mileage claims, that Leg is so low mileage as to be prectically new! Too bad I'm in the midst of recovering from our move, or I'd probably bid on it! who owns these cars with these low milage. I got a turbo 4eat from a car with 61k on it. it came empty of oils and was clean as the milage would suggest. it is working fine, shifting great and with just one code left the engine is pulling like a race horse at the fair.
June 19, 200619 yr If he's overstating MPG by the same amount as the original purchase price of the car... vehicle was purchased new in 1995 for $26,885.00 ... then I believe it I don't think any Subaru model (except SVX?) was over $25K in 1995. Our personal best MPG was around 35... with a *huge* tailwind and travelling at 55-60 MPH most of the tank. 35 is possible. I doubt consistent 35-40 sans ever present tailwinds. Sorry, I doubt some of these statements in the ad. Very nice clean wagon though. Steve
June 19, 200619 yr I agree the gas mileage claim seems a bit exaggerated, especially for an automatic AWD vehicle. However, car does look quite good for the current bid. If I were looking, I'd be bidding on it.
June 19, 200619 yr If he's overstating MPG by the same amount as the original purchase price of the car... [/color] ... then I believe it I don't think any Subaru model (except SVX?) was over $25K in 1995. Our personal best MPG was around 35... with a *huge* tailwind and travelling at 55-60 MPH most of the tank. 35 is possible. I doubt consistent 35-40 sans ever present tailwinds. Sorry, I doubt some of these statements in the ad. Very nice clean wagon though. Steve I guess I could say, "my car gets between 22 and 100 mpg," and I wouldn't be lying. as far as the price it was purchased at- dealers rip people off all the time. who knows if an ext warrenty or rust proofing aren't some of the options that added to the purchase price- maybe that was an out the door price including tax and fees. I never understand statements like "it 'only' costs $2 to replace the button." well, if it "ONLY" costs $2, then replace the button. he went through the trouble to get the car cleaned. anyway, I think this seller may be following the "letter of the law" when it comes to honesty- but certainly not the spirit. anyway when someone makes it a point to say "driven by a little old lady," that just raises red flags for me personally. maybe this is just my skeptical nature. but then again, with only 50k miles, it's hard not to at least consider.
June 19, 200619 yr MPG ratings are kind of low on all cars. When they list city MPG they mean stop n go city traffic like a big city, highway MPG is a tad closer. But for example my 86 V6 T5 Firebird was rated at 15-18 Well I get 25-28 city easy. But my city is long country block with speed limits of 40-50 MPH with very few stops. I don't do highway driving and go 50+ everywhere.
June 19, 200619 yr MPG ratings are kind of low on all cars. When they list city MPG they mean stop n go city traffic like a big city, highway MPG is a tad closer. But for example my 86 V6 T5 Firebird was rated at 15-18 Well I get 25-28 city easy. But my city is long country block with speed limits of 40-50 MPH with very few stops. I don't do highway driving and go 50+ everywhere. actually the city cycle is 5 stops and driving at no more the 30mph, with a breif cruise at 10 mph. There is no true city cycle, which they are addressing in this next re calibration of the test. thats why the city ratings are always higher then true city drivining, it should be called XX suburban, XX Highway. When i went to college we had the epa test machine. nipper
June 19, 200619 yr Author Interesting, the dude rewrote his mileage claim in the ebay ad to make it a little more realistic. What you're reading now is not the original wording. Guess it bothered me so much because someone who doesn't know Subarus, or cars in general, could fall for such a wildly inflated claim. Oh well, caveat emptor.
June 19, 200619 yr Interesting, the dude rewrote his mileage claim in the ebay ad to make it a little more realistic. What you're reading now is not the original wording. Guess it bothered me so much because someone who doesn't know Subarus, or cars in general, could fall for such a wildly inflated claim. Oh well, caveat emptor. Wait, so the claimed 35-40 MPG is *after* he revised it down? Maybe those are Imperial gallons Buyer beware indeed. Steve
June 19, 200619 yr Author Wait, so the claimed 35-40 MPG is *after* he revised it down? Originally he made a flat statement, "Gets 35-40 miles per gallon." Now he added "actual numbers with more aggressive driving would be closer to 26 city & 32 highway." Guess I did my good deed for the day!
June 19, 200619 yr Guess I did my good deed for the day! Good job! Anyone know what that car would weigh? (approx.) **** ******!
June 19, 200619 yr Speed does make a difference. The drag coefficient is not a constant. At lower speeds, it is roughly proportional to the square of velocity (vel^2). At higher (eg highway) speeds, it is roughly proportional to the cube of velocity (vel^3). For example the drag at 70 mph is double that of 55 mph (applying the cube factor to both). Drag from air is just one factor in gas mileage, but you can see the potential impact. The best mileage I ever got was a hot summer day, driving on paved country roads around 55 mph. There was some traveling thru towns and I was running the A/C. Even at that, I was about 15% over my usual "summer highway" mileage. Commuter
June 19, 200619 yr Speed does make a difference. The drag coefficient is not a constant. At lower speeds, it is roughly proportional to the square of velocity (vel^2). At higher (eg highway) speeds, it is roughly proportional to the cube of velocity (vel^3). For example the drag at 70 mph is double that of 55 mph (applying the cube factor to both). Drag from air is just one factor in gas mileage, but you can see the potential impact. The best mileage I ever got was a hot summer day, driving on paved country roads around 55 mph. There was some traveling thru towns and I was running the A/C. Even at that, I was about 15% over my usual "summer highway" mileage. Commuter best i ever saw was 40mpg in my 2.2l 98 legacy. I was not driving, but i did the math and it was two consecutive tanks of gas. We were driving back from chicago to southern ohio (down hill?). the driver had only his left leg, his right was amputated. His accelertaion was painfully slow, and holiday traffic kept things at 50-60mph (i slept). When i drove the best i saw was 35, but usually 32. nipper
June 20, 200619 yr guys... 35mpg is not out of the question. i get that on highway, sometimes a little more. but then again mine is a 2.2l fwd and not an awd
June 20, 200619 yr My girlfriend has a 96 leg. wagon like that.. ej22, 4eat, and the best we've seen out of it was 29mpg :-\ and nipster... did you get a new car?!?! i like the looks of the one in your av. there and yes... your gas milage is usually inversly proportional to your crazieness
June 20, 200619 yr My girlfriend has a 96 leg. wagon like that.. ej22, 4eat, and the best we've seen out of it was 29mpg :-\ and nipster... did you get a new car?!?! i like the looks of the one in your av. there and yes... your gas milage is usually inversly proportional to your crazieness thats the one that replaced the 98 legacy that was totaled a year ago july. i just figured out how to post the pic nipper
June 20, 200619 yr Hey, it's possible. My 93 Impreza gets 35mpg in the city easy. On the highway it's around 40. I am meticulous about maintenance, maybe that's why:D
June 20, 200619 yr Just got back from a road trip from Nova Scotia to PA and back. On the highway my '98 Legacy 2.2 was getting between 32-34 MPG at speeds of around 60 & 70 MPH. Not bad if you ask me....I'd make it better if I could though Urban Coyote
June 20, 200619 yr havn't read the thread, but here's my take on the mileage: the trip odo says 270. the gas tank is near the E-line. they're looking at about 300 miles per tank.. i can make this assumption because in order to keep good records of gas mileage, you'd use the trip odo to keep track of tank-miles. 300 miles to a 16 gallon tank is not 35mpg. BUT, it's a great looking car in wonderful condition. and he WAS very honest about everything else, even that little door ding. i'd suggest checking it out irreguardless of whether or not the mpg is accurate.
June 20, 200619 yr I went below the E line in my outback, with a gallon of gas in the hatch incase I did completely run out. Well I couldn't take it, I filled up after 20 miles of driving on the E line and a lil below. When I filled up it took 12.x gallons, so you cant really go by the E line. This was also brought up in the low fuel light thread.
June 20, 200619 yr havn't read the thread, but here's my take on the mileage: the trip odo says 270. the gas tank is near the E-line. they're looking at about 300 miles per tank.. i can make this assumption because in order to keep good records of gas mileage, you'd use the trip odo to keep track of tank-miles. 300 miles to a 16 gallon tank is not 35mpg. BUT, it's a great looking car in wonderful condition. and he WAS very honest about everything else, even that little door ding. i'd suggest checking it out irreguardless of whether or not the mpg is accurate. When my gas gauge shows about that and I fill up - around 10 gallons will go in. So its around 27mpg, still not 35 but very good.
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