NewDriverOlderRide Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 Ok on my 93 Loyale Wagon, 5 spd. Pushbutton. It leaks gas. The gas comes from infront of the Passeger side rear wheel, the car only leaks gas when the key is turned (thus starting the fuel pump) I dont know what this part is, it looks like some sort of filter that broke or something? sorry for the crap pictures... There is a hose, then this piece, and then another hose it sorta looks like this ===|O|=== === is the hose | are hose claps O is the unidentified something? Can I get this part at like autozone? or will they have to order it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 that's the fuel pump. there are hoses and clamps. if it's just the hose or clamps leaking you only need new hoses/clamps. the fuel pump can fail and leak as well...usually when they are severly rusted but i'm sure it can happen other ways as well. in this case you'd need a new fuel pump. they are typically expensive new...approaching or exceeing $100. used for $25 or so. the pictures are blurry so i can't tell where it's leaking from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baccaruda Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 that little brass/plastic UFO-thing? if that's what's leaking, it's not the fuel pump - the fuel pump is the size and shape of an 8oz. canned beverage - I don't know what that thing its but you shoud be able to get one from the dealer or from the junkyard. You might also consider putting new fuel line under there while you're at it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 that UFO thing is part of the fuel pump assembly, he'll likely need a new fuel pump if it's not the hoses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewDriverOlderRide Posted June 26, 2006 Author Share Posted June 26, 2006 that little brass/plastic UFO-thing? if that's what's leaking, it's not the fuel pump - the fuel pump is the size and shape of an 8oz. canned beverage - I don't know what that thing its but you shoud be able to get one from the dealer or from the junkyard. You might also consider putting new fuel line under there while you're at it.. I do belive it is the brass plastic UFO thing....are you sure that that isnt the top of the fuel pump? and the other part maybe fell of? IDK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffast Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 looks like the fuel pressure regulator to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 check out pictures of the UFO (unidentified fueling object) at: http://oem.thepartsbin.com/parts/thepartsbin/wizard.jsp?year=1992&make=SU&model=LOY-4WD-001&category=All&part=Fuel%20Pump&dp=true then check out that $262 price tag!!!! fuel pressure regulator is usually in the engine bay as far as i know and also typically uses vaccuum. but maybe there's an additional regulator at the pump too? either way it's not replaceable as far as i know, still need the pump assembly. it does look like one...whos knows. find another pump though and you're golden. post the parts wanted section, someone probably has one to send you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 used ones: lakeland has one, $50: 1-800-922-9676 and clearwater has one: 1-727-573-7751 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellow65 Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 the brass things are supposed to smooth out the pulses as the fuel as its being delivered. I dont know if it works or not, but there are TONS AND TONS of them at the junk yard. I cant see them costing more then a buck or two. and all that i have seen have hose clamps on both ends so they could be removed. hope that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewDriverOlderRide Posted June 26, 2006 Author Share Posted June 26, 2006 It is NOT the fuel pump. I think Mellow65 is right. Im going to head to Autozone right now.... Does anyone know if that piece is necessary? I'm contemplating taking it out, and just putting a tee there if I can't find the piece that I need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewDriverOlderRide Posted June 26, 2006 Author Share Posted June 26, 2006 The piece is called a fuel pump pulsator and they dont carry them. I'm kinda desperate since gas is 3.00$ a gallon anyone wanna give me theirs off their parts car? Or something like that ASAP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffast Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 just go to the junkyard you can find them on almost any fuel injected soob i think my six has two or three Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewDriverOlderRide Posted June 26, 2006 Author Share Posted June 26, 2006 I have NO JY's around me.....anyone wanna grab me one and Ill pay them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealleyboy Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 If I were you, I would rubber cap it at the tank until you can figure this all out. You may need a hose clamp too to keep the leakage of fuel at a minimum. What you are dealing with is very dangerous!! Trying to fab something on-the-spot, with gas dripping all around is a serious accident waiting to happen. Don't mess with it until you get the leak under control!! As far as a premanent fix, I would start with new hose & clamps at the tank, and work your way forward with fliter, pump etc until you can splice into solid metal fuel line. You do not have to use the original configuration- especially if it means spending $200+ for an OEM pump. You could pick up a universal-type aftermarket pump for under $50 that'll work fine, and I don't believe the fuel pressure damper is necessarily required on a non-OEM setup. Personally, I like to go with a custom setup anytime I have to mess around in that area of the car. The OEM pumps, mounting hardware and lines are prone to corrosion, so re-configuring the pump/filter/lines with low-cost components makes a lot of sense (IMO). Good luck, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewDriverOlderRide Posted June 26, 2006 Author Share Posted June 26, 2006 If I were you, I would rubber cap it at the tank until you can figure this all out. You may need a hose clamp too to keep the leakage of fuel at a minimum. What you are dealing with is very dangerous!! Trying to fab something on-the-spot, with gas dripping all around is a serious accident waiting to happen. Don't mess with it until you get the leak under control!! As far as a premanent fix, I would start with new hose & clamps at the tank, and work your way forward with fliter, pump etc until you can splice into solid metal fuel line. You do not have to use the original configuration- especially if it means spending $200+ for an OEM pump. You could pick up a universal-type aftermarket pump for under $50 that'll work fine, and I don't believe the fuel pressure damper is necessarily required on a non-OEM setup. Personally, I like to go with a custom setup anytime I have to mess around in that area of the car. The OEM pumps, mounting hardware and lines are prone to corrosion, so re-configuring the pump/filter/lines with low-cost components makes a lot of sense (IMO). Good luck, John No time, I have to have a ride. I need a used fuel pump pulsator (mine is cracked), I am trying to sell the car, so i need to get some things under control. there are NO JY's around me, and Autozone, pep boys, etc. don't carry them.. Thanks, for the concern, Tyler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudboat Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 I had one leaking on a Chevy pickup of mine a while back. Called a fuel pump pulsator, or dampener... The guy in parts told me to take it out and splice the hose with a coupler.. I took it out... No change noticed in anything.. My recommendation: Take it off and leave it off... Spend a few bucks on a hose coupler and a couple of new clamps and be done with it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealleyboy Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 No time, I have to have a ride. I need a used fuel pump pulsator (mine is cracked), I am trying to sell the car, so i need to get some things under control. there are NO JY's around me, and Autozone, pep boys, etc. don't carry them.. Thanks, for the concern, Tyler I would just bypass the pulsator with a section of rubber hose. I have eliminated them before without adverse effects. If too much fuel gets pumped to the intake, it'll just be returned to the tank anyway. You might be able to vise grip the hose somewhere before the pulsator to slow down fuel leakage. If nothing else, get some cat litter on the ground to make the gas less flammable. good luck John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellow65 Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 i betcha autozome isn't going to have something like that. I would have to guess it would be a subaru thing. But really if you have a junkyard around, i would go get one from there. it will save you some $$$$$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 Remove it - not needed, and there are more of them in the engine bay anyway. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syonyk Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 If you buy a new fuel pump, that's part of the assembly. It's a pulsation damper, and if you can safely bypass it and stop the leak, go for it. -=Russ=- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewDriverOlderRide Posted June 27, 2006 Author Share Posted June 27, 2006 I had one leaking on a Chevy pickup of mine a while back. Called a fuel pump pulsator, or dampener... The guy in parts told me to take it out and splice the hose with a coupler.. I took it out... No change noticed in anything.. My recommendation: Take it off and leave it off... Spend a few bucks on a hose coupler and a couple of new clamps and be done with it.. THANK YOU ALL! I'm so glad this thing isn't needed. Now I can actually Fill up my tank again. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moshem74 Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 THANK YOU ALL! I'm so glad this thing isn't needed. Now I can actually Fill up my tank again. Lol yep. i took mine out already - you dont neet it. take care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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