Durania Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 This is my first question on this side of the board so here it goes. Guy I know has a set of WRX wheels that he wants gone so I will be going to get them this weekend and plan on putting them on my 91 Legacy. Will I need to get different lug nuts for it from the dealership so that they can fit on the legacy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjo Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 lug nuts? they'll look prettier w/ alloy nuts, goto a junkyard, and pull some.. like.. 20 to be exact as long as your lug spacing is 5x100 you should be all set, and i do believe that's the spacing for your car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 You'll be fine with the stock open ended lugs, but once salt and stuff gets to them they can be a pain to get off.... Ask me how I know... You can use the closed end accorn style off the parts cars you have, there should be enough between the two of them to gather 20 and still have the wheels held on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 yep, your stock lug nuts will work fine. nice "sig"...i mean title, bratman, goofball! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster2 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Suggest using anti-sieze on the lug nut threads. Also, add some to where the back of the wheel meets the hub. It makes removing the road wheels a lot easier in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 m12x1.25 w/ 30 deg seat if you go buy some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzam Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 I suggest getting Subaru OEM lugs. The open ended ones will work but they are a royal pain to get off again. Plus they don't look as snazzy. I tried aftermarkets but they weren't the proper depth and stuck out, plus the they were cheaper chrome plating. I think the OEMs were about $45 at the dealers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine73 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Right on, if the wheels are 5x100 you should be good. Some newer soobs especially STI's have 5x114 or something like that; those would not work. If you use oil or antisieze or anything on the lugs, you need to consider that most OEM torque specs are for clean dry fasteners. Typically with antisieze you need to reduce torque by up to 1/3. Hi 86BRATMAN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjo Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Typically with antisieze you need to reduce torque by up to 1/3. Really? i never heard that, good to know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setright Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Reduce torque? Okay, maybe a thick copper paste will add friction in the threads, but oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine73 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Like with spark plugs, I believe the subaru service manual says if antisieze is used to reduce the torque by 1/3. It all depends on the torque spec. Like for the crank pulley bolt, the procedure is to apply engine oil before torquing; so no need to reduce the torque there. Other fasteners the torque spec is for clean dry threads. In that case applying antisieze or oil and then torquing to the clean&dry spec may result in over tightening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forester2002s Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Yes, it does sound odd, but applying any kind of lubricant to dry threads, can cause the stud/bolt to be over-tensioned. It works this way: - tightening a screwed joint, causes the stud or bolt to stretch, and to develop tension. The more you tighten, the more the bolt stretches. - on the one hand, if the threads are dirty/rusty, one cannot turn the nut very much. Yes you can apply lots of torque, but the bolt won't stretch very much. - on the other hand, apply lubricant to the threads (ANY lubricant, even water or anti-seize), and one can turn the nut easily, and the bolt can be tensioned a lot. So, when applying a known torque (say, 65 ft.Lbs) to dirty threads, not much happens. But apply the same 65 ft.Lbs torque to shiny-clean slippery-threads, and the resultant bolt tension can be enough to over-tension the bolt. It's the bolt tension that holds the wheels on, not the applied torque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durania Posted December 7, 2007 Author Share Posted December 7, 2007 Thanks for all the replies fellas. I am excited about getting these wheels tomorrow and will post some pics of them when I get a chance. Dude said they came on his legacy wagon and wanted them out of his garage being that he didn't like them. So they are going on my 91 legacy that has bald tires and going to go with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durania Posted December 9, 2007 Author Share Posted December 9, 2007 Set out today in the early A.M. with a major sinus infection. It rained today pretty much exactly like the day I went and got my BRAT. Met up with my WRX buddy who knows this guy and we went to meet him; Wheels and tires with enough tread left, for free! Here is some pics from today: Here is what the tread looks like: Here is my 91 Legacy: Here is some of my buddies WRX with me in the BRAT: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotshot Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Can't wait to see what they look like on the leggy. My brother has one exactly like yours and is thinking about putting WRX wheels on it also because the hubcaps are pretty beat up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setright Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 forester2002... ..I understand the logic, but copper grease/paste has a high viscosity and I wouldn't bank on it reducing friction in the bolt threads. The anti-seize aspect is the greases ability to keep water/dirt out of the threads, and stop nut/bolt rusting together, as opposed to lubricating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericem Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 That brat seems pretty smooth and quiet from the inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86ruguy Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 this is what 03 wheels look like on the wagon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durania Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 That brat seems pretty smooth and quiet from the inside. Dude had it all replaced from the cat back when I bought it like a week prior. With the back glass open and shifting I can hear a slight boxer rumble out the back. Hard to really hear much of the EA81, he's got a loud Apex-i exhaust on that thing. Those wheels are the ones that are on the black center-fold WRX in the 05 brochure. I am very excited about getting these wheels on; Should be doing that this weekend. Will have pics uploaded then as well as what the tires look like thats currently on it. Kyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durania Posted December 15, 2007 Author Share Posted December 15, 2007 Just got done putting them on, used EA81 lugs off my BRAT and Hatch. Need to do some work to the girl: drivers side CV, passenger wheel bearing, back brake is dragging. Has a hell of a heater, Enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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