The Dude Abides Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Ok its 2am and im thinking outloud. Has anyone tried replaceing the tiresum timeing belt with a sproket and chain type of system or is it not even concieveable to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash321 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 You must have been tired when you thought of this on at 2 in the morning. You would have lube issues and the chain would break in a "flying plastic bits fit of glory". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 hop in bed next time and wake up with a fresh head! the easy solution that is somewhat reminiscent of a ridiculous project like this would be to install an EA81. it would even be more reliable - no chain or belt. and very cheap. it's possible if you have thousands of hours or $30,000 to pay someone...if you could even find someone that nuts. It's all kind of silly. If you're that worried about it, just run without covers and the timing belt job takes 15 minutes. how many miles are you putting on your EA82 that you can't change the timing belt every now and again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 hop in bed next time and wake up with a fresh head! you'd rather spend hundreds (or thousands?) of hours converting it than 15 minutes doing a timing belt job???:confused::confused: if you could even find someone willing, it might cost about $20,000 for something like that. It's all kind of silly. If you're that worried about it, just run without covers and the timing belt job takes 15 minutes. how many miles are you putting on your EA82 that you can't change the timing belt every now and again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88RxTuner Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 << thinking gary needs more sleep too... ^^that was a double doosey! (j/k) Seriously, though... Once every 40-50k miles, spend a few minutes changing the belts.. A chain drive would be cool, but unfortuntately due to the above mentioned lube issues is somewhat unfeasible... Besides, I like belts better than chains. They are easier to replace, and when they do fail, there's usually less carnage. 88RxTuner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Abides Posted March 2, 2009 Author Share Posted March 2, 2009 It wasnt anything about it being easy or not but i guess i thought you could put a sproket where the pullys were and line up some chain. I didnt realize the chans need lubricant. Yea i was tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 wasnt anything about it being easy or not but i guess i thought you could put a sproket where the pullys were and line up some chain. I didnt realize the chans need lubricant. i'm with you there, i didn't realize the chains needed lubricant either until i just got this H6 with a timing chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 come to think of it, it would almost be a fun experiment, get some sprockets and chain and give it a whirl. you'd have to fabricate a front metal cover and have oil supply for the chain from the pump. water pump would be seriously in the way. if the system was closed, which it would have to be you wouldn't have to worry about cam/crank seal leaking any more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoyale Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I just have one question, ok everyone keeps saying the EA81 does not run T-belts. what does it have then? It has to use a chain right? I can't think of any other way I've just be wondering this for a few months and never found an answer lol.. Please give me more knowlege btw, it is a scary idea on the EA82, but would make for a fun experiment "As Gary said" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratman18 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I just have one question, ok everyone keeps saying the EA81 does not run T-belts. what does it have then? It uses a chain right? I've just be wondering this for a few months and never found an answer lol.. btw, it is a scary idea on the EA82, but would make for a fun experiment "As Gary said" the EA81 is gear driven internally. There is no chain or belts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoyale Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 the EA81 is gear driven internally. There is no chain or belts. Oh wow! Thats coool!! Thank you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo'J Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 That is really a cool idear.... Just think of a ea82 with bike gears and chain running the thing no covers all cleaned. It would never hold up (????) and hard to time, but it would be art. Soobart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pontiac6KSTEAWD Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 come to think of it, it would almost be a fun experiment, get some sprockets and chain and give it a whirl. you'd have to fabricate a front metal cover and have oil supply for the chain from the pump. water pump would be seriously in the way. if the system was closed, which it would have to be you wouldn't have to worry about cam/crank seal leaking any more! You may have hit on something there. Take those seals out for a feed supply, and in the side of the fabbed up timing CHAIN cover, drill a hold, weld in a tube that drains into the oil pan. Side because you would want a certain amount to build up to make it to the timing chain. Interesting. But still probly very expensive and time consuming. but interesting none the less. EDIT: Althou finding someone that is willing to press off the water pump pulley, to press on a timing chain water pump pulley, and then custom fabbing up some cogs for all the other points. Still interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 It wouldn't take much for a motivated machinist to make it happen. Chain sprockets are readily available, and you could use a heavy grease for lube - just change the chain and sprockets more often. No one in their right mind would bother with such foolishness, but it's not particularly difficult with the right tooling. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 No one in their right mind would bother with such foolishness, but it's not particularly difficult with the right tooling. GD Who said anything about being "in thier right mind" ? I think it could be done - albeit, not very practical... Motorcycles run on chains with nothing more than a squirt of chain lube periodically... as mentioned - the waterpump sprocket would be the biggest issue...getting the correct size... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo'J Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Campagnolo would look real cool.......Have you seen some of thosesetups? I just gotta throw in some bike stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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