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#1 WJM

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Posted 21 March 2004 - 08:39 AM

Well.....looks like the project is underway....first step: Springs.

Here, look!

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*evil laugh*

#2 XSNRG

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Posted 21 March 2004 - 09:35 AM

Damn those are beefy...for the RX? are they custom made? More info PLEASE:D

#3 oddcomp

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Posted 21 March 2004 - 09:53 AM

almost look like cut down bronco springs...

#4 WJM

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Posted 21 March 2004 - 10:20 AM

more pics and info tonight.

Race car spings....and for the GL-10.

#5 WJM

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Posted 21 March 2004 - 05:23 PM

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The springs are too tall. Sits the car up about 1.5 inches too far front, and 2.5 inches rear. And the rear springs dont want to sit to well in the perches...so, gotta cut and mod.

The rates...be ready....1200 front, and 1200 rear. Yes, 1,200 POUNDS.

Its really quite harsh of a ride....the struts had enogh to dampen the yellow springs...250 front and 330 rear....but these....bounce. Its fine in turns and over bumps....its the DIPS that are so bad.

And my Camber is gone!!! its about 1 negative degree now...i had about 2.5 or more....so, need to go lower.

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Posted 21 March 2004 - 05:29 PM

hey ive never seen a sube with the rear bumpstops on, they've all fallen off up here. Weird. When you get a stiffer spring you also need to go shorter to keep the same ride height.

#7 WJM

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Posted 21 March 2004 - 05:33 PM

ONLY the wagons have those style bump stops.

I know i have to go shorter with stiffer springs to maintain height....the original fronts were 10 or...the yellows were 9, or 8.5....and the golds are 8.

The rears were 11, and the yellow was 10. I knew the 10 silver was gonna be too tall, but i wanted to see how it handles....

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Posted 21 March 2004 - 07:00 PM

You are a sick, sick man... LOL :D

#9 WJM

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Posted 21 March 2004 - 09:21 PM

Oh I know.........:headbang:

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Posted 21 March 2004 - 09:27 PM

You could also add on a more agressive shock in parallel with the struts. If you need help let me know.

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Posted 21 March 2004 - 09:29 PM

Ya know, that is not a bad idea. But Pleiades and I have come up with a solution to the sever underdampenness....more to come as we play with that option. FIRST i have to get the wagon sitting like I want it...15MM of space between the tire and fenderwell.

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Posted 21 March 2004 - 10:32 PM

hey will, post a pic of how it looks with the springs on please?

#13 WJM

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Posted 21 March 2004 - 10:33 PM

HIGH. Looks like a 4wd wagon with the struts preloaded all the way up. The springs dont compress at all when the car sits on them. LOL

The other ones were soft enough to compress, and the...eh, ive got pics with the other springs.....time to search the D: drive.

#14 WJM

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Posted 21 March 2004 - 10:47 PM

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Thats with the yellow springs....on the stock ones, it sat about 1 inch higher front, and 1/2 higher rear. Ofcourse, positive camber front. LOL It had about 2~3 (somewhere in there) degs of NEGATIVE camber on the front....helps to have camber plates too. :D

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Posted 21 March 2004 - 10:59 PM

nice looking ride :D

#16 WJM

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Posted 21 March 2004 - 11:00 PM

it is indeed. THanks!

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Posted 22 March 2004 - 12:56 PM

just a silly idea that occured for anyone else wanting this mod
i mentioned bronco springs erlier up

has anyone thought of the progressive springs founf on some truks??
cut them down to fit and for normal highway driving they have some give to them
for agressive driving / offroad once the spring compresses a certain amount it gets much stiffer...
just a idea..

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Posted 22 March 2004 - 05:56 PM

LOL Will that is just too stiff, if you were down here you'd have kidney problems with our @$$ bad roads I thought my ride was hard with '85 4wd springs kyb gas dampers and a .75" spacer in the back struts (and yes those are struts in the back irregardless of what you have heard) to compensate for the weight of my tools and stereo... Can't have my PUGs rubbing...

where did you get those springs from?

#19 WJM

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Posted 23 March 2004 - 12:52 AM

YEah its stiff. Muscle Motorsports.

im not going to search other makes ansuch for springs....I'll just go there and get whatever spring i need.

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Posted 23 March 2004 - 07:21 AM

Go to Barnes and Noble and get the book How to make your car handle by Fred Puhn or another is Chassis Engineering by Herb Adams. Will save you lots of time, trial and error, and general hardship.

The Herb Adams book is a bit old, published in 94, but it covers the basics.


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Posted 23 March 2004 - 08:49 AM

maybe i mis-read...

but i didnt see a make for these springs? who makes them and what did they cost?

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Posted 23 March 2004 - 10:09 AM

i'v got a book on setting up suspensions and building frames for racing if you wanna borrow it

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Posted 24 March 2004 - 09:26 AM

ive got the Chassis Engineering by Herb Adams. A very good book. Ive read thru it several times.

Dennis ex24: I do not know who makes these springs. Since they are such high rates, i got a deal on them....$14.95 for the set of four. There deal was "Race Springs, $14.95 for a set, rates must be 1000#+, and 600#+ for coil over sizes."

They do have hypercoil, AFcoil, and the other popular brands, thse look like they have been painted, but the rears are chrome plates....maybe those are hypers, I dont know. They were used springs. Pretty darned good condition too. Those yellow springs were excellent, dont know the brand, but they were used as well.

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Posted 21 April 2004 - 01:44 AM

Is that an autox picture? How did it perform?

Where did you get those burly things?

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Posted 21 April 2004 - 05:38 AM

yes, that is out at one of the autocrosses. back with the yellow spirings. I got those springs here: http://www.musclemotorsports.com/




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