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#1 xoomer

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Posted 18 March 2006 - 09:32 PM

I'm looking for the best and most inexpensive Lift Kit on the market,

Who has it??



is it Alied Armament..

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Posted 18 March 2006 - 09:49 PM

You may wanna just take a look around at them. Ozified.com, alliedarmament.com and sjrlift.com all sell lift kits for subies. It depends on the size and body style of your car as well. Check the offroad sticky at the top of the page for more info.

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Posted 18 March 2006 - 10:11 PM

most kits are all priced fair, AA is close by, and the guys out there are great and very helpful. its also not very hard to make a lift either, but requires a lotta patience. dunno whereabouts burien is, but if I'm nearby I can bring my wagon by sometime to show you and give you an idea of what all it goes into lifting a subaru.

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Posted 18 March 2006 - 11:03 PM

I'm looking for the best and most inexpensive Lift Kit on the market,


That's sort of a contridiction in terms, isn't it? For super-cheap, build one. For the best, BYB kits take the cake for a small lift.

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 12:16 AM

cheap is relative, if you have to replace axles because of a poorly designed lift, you will quickly burn through the money you saved.

I have had 2 cars with the PK BYB lift, and have never broken an axle, others have, but the strain on them is less than others.

Just raged one pretty hard today, up in Reiter pit, and that kits been on my car for over 3 years, pretty good testament to its build quality

Ozified FTW

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 03:47 AM

should see how AA tests their kits :grin:

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 03:56 AM

The only thing i've seen AA do with their lift kits is throw a bongo drum through the hatch window, and blow a front strut.

I've rocked a BYB since Jan. 2002... :banana:

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 05:30 AM

Thankyou.. I was being lazy...


by the way burien is 15 minutes south of seattle

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 05:39 AM

byb it is.. I'm thinking 3" front 3"rear lift... with that I'm most likely gonna have to get some pugs huh?

Ok then Who wants to help me put it together when I get it?

and/or is it simple enough an Autozoner can do it?

This is what I tell my customers... I don't know.. All I do is get in and drive, something goes wrong I take it to a MECHANIC!! and Please don't GIVE ME a Relay and ask me to figure out What it is supposed to do..

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 07:29 AM

honestly, AA isnt bad at all, it depends majory on what you want, order their high clearance lift and of course you will be eating through axles like no other. the other lifts dont put any strain on any part of the drivetrain. last I knew they were doing a series of some pretty knarly jumping for each of their kits... and they are a little bit closer to bein "local"

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 07:29 PM

I think scrap makes a good point that we will stand behind our product 100%. We made an error on his strut extensions, and Albie one of my employees/partner and lift designer spent the better half of his day fixing the problem for a unique and custom unit. I don't think many shops will go out of their way to fix a problem at their expense in a reasonable amount of time. I think you will find that all of our parts our of high quality, and there are different applications for different designs. I like how noah goes out of his way to make his claim but yet has never owned anything we make. Keep up the good fight buddy, some day will have something you want. Hey hows that oil pan and oil sending unit holding up! Need a skid plate.

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Posted 20 March 2006 - 02:33 AM

I like how noah goes out of his way to make his claim but yet has never owned anything we make.


I didn't really go out of my way, i typed that whole message from the same keyboard :brow: the BYB design has been around longer than the median age of the users on this board, its tried and tested, and dosn't add any axle angle like your lift does, which as we all know is the enemy of axle longevity.


Hey hows that oil pan and oil sending unit holding up! Need a skid plate.


Great, and no thanks!! the EJ oil sending unit is on the top of the motor, so i've not had any problems there. I'll be going to the Boeing store to pick up a sheet of Titanium in a few weeks, and should have a wicked awesome skid plate by our next outing, were going up to Walker Vally in April, if you guys are game.

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Posted 20 March 2006 - 03:05 AM

were going up to Walker Valley in April


Hey now that sounds fun:banana: :eek: :cool: :brow:

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Posted 20 March 2006 - 07:58 AM

Cheap and inexpensive are contradicitions of terms. Cheap will never remain inexpensive. I have built my own design. I have ran PK/BYB lifts and I have also co-built and designed my own transfercase/solid rear axle lift. I have some experience to back my opinions.

Scrap, you know the ease of building your own is slightly misquoted. Who built your strut extensions and why?

Building your own lift is easy for everything but the strut extensions. These have to be correct or the camber will be off and you'll eat tires and front axles. Even my first lift had some camber issues. It did however last for almost 5 yrs without being altered or modified.

PK/BYB, this is the design that migrated across the big pond from Australia. It has been in use for about 20yrs now. Minor modifications have been made over the yrs but it is essentially the same kit that has to be nearing one million miles travelled(combined of course).

AA, the new kids on the block, deserve credit for perseverance for sure. Their lifts have gone through some changes in the short time they have been here. They have listened to input, both positive and negative, and made changes accordingly. They have jumped in with both feet on a lot of Subaru accessories. But, they are finding what most people already knew. It is a very limited market which they saturated far too quickly. When are you cutting it off again?

SJR, has taken an entirely different approach to lifts. Same basic theory but a new twist to things. He uses cast aluminum instead of square tube steel or aluminum block. Still too new for evaluation of longevity but they seem to be holding up.

Why am I doing this you ask? Let me tell you why. If you sit back and listen to everyone carrying on about who is better and so on you'll never make a decision. All 3 are west coast manufactured. All three will stand behind their products. All three will sell you something that will work. You will have to do your own research and come to your own conclusions on this one. It is your money btw and needs to be a decision you are comfortable with.

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Posted 20 March 2006 - 10:16 AM

Why am I doing this you ask? Let me tell you why. If you sit back and listen to everyone carrying on about who is better and so on you'll never make a decision. All 3 are west coast manufactured. All three will stand behind their products. All three will sell you something that will work. You will have to do your own research and come to your own conclusions on this one. It is your money btw and needs to be a decision you are comfortable with.


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All things being equal, I'd buy AA

but as someone who acutally owns, and wheels full lifts from both AA and BYB, and has an add-on part from SJR, I'd wheel the crap out of any one of them without a seconds hesitation.

It's true that the origional AA high-lift design posed potential Axle problems. But because of my luck....or lack thereof for the first couple months....they changed their design, and things are much better as a result. It's too bad that some of you die-hard BYB fans refuse to give credit where credit is due...

I've put 10k miles or more on my AA lifted '88 wagon, including hundreds offroad. I had engine failure on that wagon, and am now driving a BYB lifted '88 wagon, and it's at least as solid!

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Posted 20 March 2006 - 12:44 PM

I'm looking for the best and most inexpensive Lift Kit on the market,

Who has it??



is it Alied Armament..


the Best lift is whatever you have on your car when your out havin a good time challenging your self and your vehicle , isnt it all about havin a good time, its like arguing over who has the best alternater bracket :D :eek: :brow:

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Posted 20 March 2006 - 01:11 PM

All very commendable posts. Thank you everyone for good input. All lifts have their benifits and flaws.

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Posted 20 March 2006 - 01:19 PM

the Best lift is whatever you have on your car when your out havin a good time challenging your self and your vehicle , isnt it all about havin a good time, its like arguing over who has the best alternater bracket :D :eek: :brow:

All very commendable posts. Thank you everyone for good input. All lifts have their benifits and flaws.


Very professional of both of you. Your points are the basics of it as well. That was where my long-winded post was trying to go. I believe that would be similar to PK's response as well.

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Posted 22 March 2006 - 11:14 PM

Just remember, an old saying: There is fast, good, and cheap. Pick two. For some reason just thought of hearing that a long time ago.

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Posted 31 March 2006 - 02:30 PM

I've seen the ozified lifts in person, never drove one and I will say no to ozified/BYB. Their design in the rear is messed up. too much stuff to break.

I have the AA lift on my rig. Other than the fact that they sent me the wrong steering shaft and I had to pay more money on top of that to get my old one welded TWICE because AA gave me the wrong measurements. Another problem with AA is that they should include rear diff hanger shims to drop the front of the rear end down some. With out, the rear diff will slam on the bottom of your car when you floor it hard in 4wd.

other than that, the AA lift has been great. Haven't broken anything or any axles yet and I've been hard enough to blow a tranny. Chipped teeth ont he 4Lo gear and spun the main input bearing.

SRJ's lifts look the nicest and most accurate. I'm thinking about gettin the 6 inch lift next. With AA I had to ream out some of the holes to get the bolts to fit.

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Posted 01 April 2006 - 02:39 AM

Another problem with AA is that they should include rear diff hanger shims to drop the front of the rear end down some. With out, the rear diff will slam on the bottom of your car when you floor it hard in 4wd.


:confused::confused::confused: I never had anything like that?? even with my seized ujoints!!


and about the accuracy of the bolt holes. it's virtually impossible to get an accurate dimension for an old car like this, the geometry just isn't going to be the exact same from car to car.....I too had to ream out the holes a bit, but nothing substantial, I don't hold it against them one bit.


and the BYB kit just isn't as weak as it looks. it's vulnerable, but not that bad.




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