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#1 Dylan86GL10

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Posted 05 May 2006 - 06:04 PM

I'm installing my EA82T into the carbed poop wagon I bought from FirstGLWagon:
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So I'm having trouble lining up the motor mount bolts when I spy:

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Campared to:

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The turbo subframe clearly is clearenced for the turbo exhaust.

Anyone deal with this without swapping frames? BFH?


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Posted 05 May 2006 - 07:26 PM

I've seen it a couple of times, but always with the xmember swap.

BFH could knock the whole damn thing out of whack if applied too vigorously.

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Posted 05 May 2006 - 07:58 PM

it might not be what you want to hear,but the easiest way is to change the crossmember out.....you could scollop the member then weld it up and spend more time doing that then it would take to change..not to mention it being as strong or not when you finish if scolloped....youll feel like crap messing around changing it.(after all your good work so far).but then you,ll feel a whole lot better when its done knowing your car is good to go ,,anywhere and safely...:) you can change it without removing the engine.....cheers

#4 FirstSubaruGLwagon

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Posted 05 May 2006 - 08:06 PM

Can you use spacers on the motor mounts??

Very nice clear photos , by the way.
I can see you have done alot of work to it.
look forward to seeing it whaen you are finished .

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Posted 05 May 2006 - 08:16 PM

would lifting it help?

#6 Dylan86GL10

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Posted 05 May 2006 - 08:31 PM

Can you use spacers on the motor mounts??

Very nice clear photos , by the way.
I can see you have done alot of work to it.
look forward to seeing it whaen you are finished .


Thanks David, I've done quite a bit of work on it. The body was TOO nice compared to my GL10 so its getting most of the goodies. Boy am I going to miss the sunroof though. There's still some bolts and things I need to get (no one stocks M12x1.25 longer than 100mm around here) as the AA 3AT kit doesn't have all the parts for the 5sp tranny mount.


I'm planning on spacing the motor mounts. This will do two things, clear the exhaust and reduce possible engine damage off roading. I've got some ideas on what to use and will mess around with it tomorrow.

#7 Dylan86GL10

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Posted 05 May 2006 - 08:32 PM

would lifting it help?


Its got a 4" AA lift on it now and I'm going to "Lift" the engine back towards the body to clear the exhaust.

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Posted 05 May 2006 - 10:05 PM

well for starters, the rigdity of it with spacers will suck big time. You'll be more prone to snap motor mounts and bend the pitch stopper, Second, turbo's SUCK for offroad sicne they have no low end torque like NA engines do. Also, swap the crossmember, its really not the difficult and will save you headaches down the road. Trust me, half @$$ing ************ will lead to more trouble and more money then its worth.... just my $.02

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Posted 05 May 2006 - 11:53 PM

swapping the crossmember is very simple I'd highly recommend doing that..

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 12:35 AM

Well in mine I just notched the crossmember and am going to weld it later, I haven't yet and it has held up fine. (however mine is an unlifted street car with no lift, so I don't know

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 01:24 AM

plus it's bad for the transmission mounts and axles due to the odd angle. Minimal perhaps, but I can't tell how far off it is in the pic...


well for starters, the rigdity of it with spacers will suck big time. You'll be more prone to snap motor mounts and bend the pitch stopper, Second, turbo's SUCK for offroad sicne they have no low end torque like NA engines do. Also, swap the crossmember, its really not the difficult and will save you headaches down the road. Trust me, half @$$ing ************ will lead to more trouble and more money then its worth.... just my $.02



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Posted 06 May 2006 - 03:33 AM

I agree with the guys on this one. swap the x-member or you are just gonna cost yourself time and money.

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 09:31 AM

well for starters, the rigdity of it with spacers will suck big time. You'll be more prone to snap motor mounts and bend the pitch stopper, Second, turbo's SUCK for offroad sicne they have no low end torque like NA engines do. Also, swap the crossmember, its really not the difficult and will save you headaches down the road. Trust me, half @$$ing ************ will lead to more trouble and more money then its worth.... just my $.02


Are we getting into the turbos suck for offroading discussion again? I thought this was about motor mounts, but thanks.

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 05:27 AM

there's different kinds of off roading and different objectives.

if engine/exhaust clearance is your only concern definitely swap the cross members, it's super easy to do. you don't have a turbo cross member do you? it's still in the RX isn't it?

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Posted 17 September 2006 - 11:32 AM

well for starters, the rigdity of it with spacers will suck big time. You'll be more prone to snap motor mounts and bend the pitch stopper, Second, turbo's SUCK for offroad sicne they have no low end torque like NA engines do. Also, swap the crossmember, its really not the difficult and will save you headaches down the road. Trust me, half @$$ing ************ will lead to more trouble and more money then its worth.... just my $.02


Some things to thing about,,, puting blocks under the engine mounts would actualy return the engine to it's proper pitch, because the automatic tranny has smaller lift blocks than the standard,,, also,, it would move the engin back away from the radiator,,,, also ,, i designed the pitch-stoper , to be adjustable within 1" ,,,,, just some things to consider ;)

#16 Dylan86GL10

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Posted 18 December 2006 - 08:25 PM

I swapped subframes in the end. Been off here for a while trying to catch up with all my other projects.




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