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#1 Scott in Bellingham

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 10:32 PM

Looking for pictures of a 4x4 subaru running gear sand type buggy, looking to maybe make one

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 12:28 AM

www.rhinobuggies.com.au

I've got a set of plans for "The Bandit" which is I think what Sweet82 is running.. Haven't built anything yet though.

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 12:47 AM

Here is a guy local to me who builds them right out of old rusted subies.
http://members.optus...sun/Buggies.htm

His on AUSubaru by the name of steve_rising_sun.

He built a EA82t engine to run on LPG with a supercharger and put that in one of the buggies too. He said nothing else could beat it in the sand dunes, until he built a tube buggy from his rolled Bits-r-missin 3L Pajero.

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 12:52 AM

Also I've seen a mid mount toyota 2L bolted to a 4sp D/R subie box running 4WD, the front diff was Subaru, but there was a really weird chain and sproket/front hub/axleshaft/propshaft setup that got drive to the front.. I can't find pics of it now :( But it was really interesting.. I have no idea why they didn't just use a EA or EJ in it, would of made it shorter by a fair bit.
It was red, if anyone knows where to get pics of it.

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 02:01 AM

Scott, Im sure that this is not what your after. BUT since your looking down this path:confused: this gives me a chance to suggest and share an idea I had for a build way before I found usmb. Tube frames from www.berrienbuggy.com had the bottom sections tacked in a jig and you welded on your torsion housing,and the rest if the kit yourself.the warior 2 seat was $250+shipping, well made .cheap as heck. I could not even buy the tubing,let alone mandrel bend it all correctly,knotch it,for near that price. And by changing the top bars you could radically change the dorky look and interior room. stick your ea in the front cab forward it and wallaa.
Then as the owner of an argo 8x8 (a chain drive maze) I realized that gearing problems on a trail sube could easily be solved by 2/1 or 3/1 reduction by tig welding double 20 sprockets to the DOJ cups,chain drive to sprockets 3Xs reduced to the same attachment process thru bearing blocks to the axles (even had an external locker)and off to the wheels. simple external reduction. I had the specs drawn up at one time and tossed it. on the chain,double 20 is $8.50 per foot. and the sprockets are a bit more.I had it figured at about $200 total,including bearing blocks shafts and keys ect. and p.s.

at this point,if anyone is unfamilliar with just how strong chain drive can be? here is a little mind changer.go here http://www.chaindriverail.com/and click on vidios. its not the best sight for illistrating and showing their products.they wont show you detailed pics,because their ticked about people stealing their ideas.

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 07:56 AM

Scott, Im sure that this is not what your after. BUT since your looking down this path:confused: this gives me a chance to suggest and share an idea I had for a build way before I found usmb. Tube frames from www.berrienbuggy.com had the bottom sections tacked in a jig and you welded on your torsion housing,and the rest if the kit yourself.the warior 2 seat was $250+shipping, well made .cheap as heck. http://www.chaindriverail.com/.


Phizinza Here is a guy local to me who builds them right out of old rusted subies.
http://members.optus....un/Buggies.htm

His on AUSubaru by the name of steve_rising_sun.



thanks for the links, Im thinking legacy running gear with a D/R 4 seater

something simular to this

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 10:03 AM

There were pics of a rockcrawling buggy around here somewhere running a 2.5 or something. I'll look for it. Also, up here in Reno a guy has a professional rockcrawler using a 2.5 that I could take some pics of.

EDIT: Killed 2 birds with 1 stone:

http://www.pirate4x4...=1&d=1102445802

I haven't seen this in person yet, but this is the one built by the guy who lives up here in Reno.

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 10:08 AM

Scott,

That's a Rhinobuggy "Humbug". The same chassis as all the other Rhino kits, just a different look on the top side. I considered the Humbug because it was a 4 seater but I didn't want to pay to get the fiberglass front shipped up from AZ. I ended up stretching the Rhino "Bandit" into a 4 seater.

When you were talking sand, I thought you were looking for a dune buggy or sand rail type vehicle. The Rhinos are not really in that class due to gearing and other issues. I'd consider them more of a trail/beach buggy.

Good luck,
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Posted 16 March 2007 - 10:28 AM

There were pics of a rockcrawling buggy around here somewhere running a 2.5 or something. I'll look for it. Also, up here in Reno a guy has a professional rockcrawler using a 2.5 that I could take some pics of.

EDIT: Killed 2 birds with 1 stone:

http://www.pirate4x4...=1&d=1102445802

I haven't seen this in person yet, but this is the one built by the guy who lives up here in Reno.


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#10 Scott in Bellingham

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 11:22 AM

Scott,

That's a Rhinobuggy "Humbug". The same chassis as all the other Rhino kits, just a different look on the top side. I considered the Humbug because it was a 4 seater but I didn't want to pay to get the fiberglass front shipped up from AZ. I ended up stretching the Rhino "Bandit" into a 4 seater.

When you were talking sand, I thought you were looking for a dune buggy or sand rail type vehicle. The Rhinos are not really in that class due to gearing and other issues. I'd consider them more of a trail/beach buggy.

Good luck,
Glenn


I live in the NW most of our driving is in the woods go to the sand on vacation

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 05:19 PM

It didn't for a sec, but hit refresh or something. I see it now.:confused:

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 08:16 PM

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heres one in action.Its unstoppable offroad only got ea81 motor and running gear

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Posted 17 March 2007 - 12:08 PM

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heres one in action.Its unstoppable offroad only got ea81 motor and running gear


now that looks good, even licensed for the road , now thats a Idea ,could even have a towbar , tow it to the dunes or woods ,go play and tow it home Huuummmmm,

#14 Scott in Bellingham

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Posted 17 March 2007 - 05:24 PM

does anyone offer a offroad frame similar to these examples that a guy could buy and with a doner car build up a machine??

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 12:01 AM

wow chain drive might be pretty cool.could work for the rear but there may not be enough space up front...

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 07:46 AM

this would be cool with EJ , road legal and 4 seats

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 04:01 PM

does anyone offer a offroad frame similar to these examples that a guy could buy and with a doner car build up a machine??


Scott,

Both the Humbug, like the one in the pic, and the Bandit like my vehicle are one donor car built machines. Neither one is going to be street legal in the US. Both are the same sub frame. The only difference is the top tubing/siding. Both are Rhino kits. The Humbug will end up weighing more because there is more body to it.

There are other companys that sell Subaru required kits. I think the Rhinos are probably the best design.

That particular Bandit is a four seater.
http://www.ultimates...rt=3&ppuser=584


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Posted 19 March 2007 - 07:44 PM

Neither one is going to be street legal in the US.


unless you move to az, where you can make an atv street legal and a full on rock buggy street legal...

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Posted 20 March 2007 - 08:13 AM

Drew up a rough drawing in CAD to get a idea what Im looking at

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this has all 4 doors identical, 92" wheelbase

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Posted 20 March 2007 - 07:02 PM

unless you move to az, where you can make an atv street legal and a full on rock buggy street legal...

Same with Wyoming. As long as it has mudflaps it can be driven down the road, atleast 6 years ago you could.

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Posted 20 March 2007 - 11:17 PM

in idaho an atv is street legal if it has lights,mud flaps.mirrors,etc.Anything a car is supposed to have...mostly atvs are street legal already...

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 12:06 AM

Do you have to have a bike licence to ride ATV's on the road? Or just a car licence? Do you even get bike licences over there in the US?

Quads (as we call them here in Aus) are already stupidly dangerous. Riding them on the road is practically like praying for death to come to your door.

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I mean motorbike licence. You can ride 50cc and under on your car licence here, but anything bigger requires a whole training cource.

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 11:39 AM

bike licence as is bicycle or motorcycle?over here I believe just a car licence...

#24 Scott in Bellingham

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 11:47 AM

my plans are to take a Legacy and use all the important stuff and the firewall with the vin number , and build up my own vehicle with lights and all and use the legacy title if done properly you could get it inspected and be issued a new title and license for the road, like a old car hot rod or kit car people do it all the time :banana:

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Posted 23 March 2007 - 11:49 AM

still looking for more pictures of light 4x4 car based vehicles . got any??




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