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Dude, if I run 87 in this time, it wont generate ANY power past 3600. 93, it will get power to 4500. With 100, it will pull to 6k, then start to lose power and detonate, with 25 deg. The second session i had too much timing, no detonation until top end...but the first session i had ZERO detonation. I created 10 more WHP. Explain that. And I dont see where power crosses at 5252. Show me that.

Awesome.

Yeah, too much heat creation. At least its wintertime, and that helps.

ok....sounds great. Ive got extra flywheels to try with...but no engine. Lets see......pics? No?

i guess it wouldnt be possible to get a picture...or 2 or 3... Also, if there any reason why you could not use an EJ flywheel/clutch set? The reasoning behind that use of the EA stuff was....? Im thinking of EJ205 in my RX now that this is along.....i wonder how it would sit in the engine bay...such as engine mounts....

You could go riceboy, and make some huge front body kit, and put the rad out there. LOL Something like this impreza toy car I have: (copy and paste link) http://www.geocities.com/wmaham1701/angle.jpg http://www.geocities.com/wmaham1701/side.jpg I looke and thought...there is lots of room up there for something...like a rad, if i want to throw an EG33 under the hood and Twin turbo it.

Cams, yep. Next time I go, id love to find some 110 to throw in the tank. I am going to install some of those 87+ turbo cams, and see what happens along with a Euro ECU. Hey Skipper (and anyone else who might know), are there really a difference in cams between the 85/86 and the 87+ turbo EA82T's?

No muffler. Stock down pipe....but ive modify'd it. The cat canister, where it starts to form a pipe again, i cut just above that point, so the cannister has no bottom, and i gutted the cat from it. Thats my exhaust. But remember I did do the 9.5:1 SPFI shortblock, and intake. Still, its not much, but I expected more. The original turbo engine I had in the wagon was faster than this engine, and it ran on 87 pump gas. Oh well, time to play with the Euro ECU, and some stocker cams 87+

hey, get online! You want to try my MBC? I can leavehere around 1130-1200.

Now...engine seating in the engine bay...i dont know much about that.

you CAN install the XT trans mounts on the XT6 trans, and it bolts right into stock location behind an EA82. I did that. The FT4WD XT and XT6 transmissions, has the capability for both styles of trans mounts. The XT6 uses a legacy style from the factory, while the XT uses the normal Leone style.

http://usmb.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10021 Check it out. fits 85+ wagons. Im sure it can fit the sedans and coupes. NEW item, never used. Im posting it here to get some more interest....i hope I dont get in trouble for posting this here......

There have been two ppl that I know of that has done that...well, Witte put it in a GL-10 wagon. The other guy...i dont remember his name, did it to a Coupe, I dont remember if it was an RX or not. He was also putting the complete XT6 interior in as well. He's got pics on a site somewhere....so if anyone remembers, post!

Did I mention that an RX did 3 pulls? ok, doesnt look like it. 10psi i said, anyhow....a stock RX, with a 1 3/4 glass pack and bottomless intake airbox...83 whp. about 118 est crank HP. It did have a BOV, but that doesnt affect whp. i was REALLY dissapointed in the numbers. Like I said, I was expecting 110~115 as a MIN! Richness: They had one, but we didnt use it. Black smoke from exhaust? Yes. Rich smell? Yes! Pleiades and i had really pretty exhaust until the upper RPMs, he gota touch rich, where as I got ALOT rich on the first session, where as the second was not as bad...the car was warmed up all the way. Warp3, Pleiades and I seem to be the crew making alot of progress lately with the EA82T engines these days...and as always, I will keep everyone uptodate with our findings.

oh, the 9.5:1 issue. With any kind of intake and exhaust set up, and it woudl matter about the IC, its the fuel/compression issue under load/boost that is the problem. The engine, on stock timing, is fine unless its under a load. When boost kicks in, the knock sensor does its job, and no ping until about 4000~4500, then it wont pull anymore under WOT. nothing but ping. Retard it, and it will pull...not much, but no ping. Put in competition fuel, and set it for 25 deg...pulls all day long up high, and MASSIVE power in the lower revs, then the turbo start to spool. then starts to die out due to the small turbo, and INCREDIBLY small and illdesigned crossover pipe...cams help this problem fade...but headers/uppipe assy woudl be great to have avalible. Believe me, the crossover pipe, its SMALL. I had to change the one on the GL-10 before i ran the dyno, it was broke after the 1-3 dumped into the 2-4 stream...SMALL. pics of that to come. Anyhow, its not very steetable, as a beater engine. you need to be careful of the timing and ping situation. Granted that i took an 800 mile trip with it pining all the way and it still lives, and lived thru the dyno pulls...(6 total, 2 were simulated 1/4 runs, very inaccurate)...and all this other abuse....you will ahve more gains with intake/exh work, and a larger turbo. Ok, every one start ranting!

ok, here are the pics, and then... my findings. Pleiades? Chip in! Mine: http://www.geocities.com/wmaham1701/dynoday/ Pleiades: http://www.subaruworld.net/dyno/dyno.html (lemme know if links are not right!) Specs: 1st session was done with roller calibrated RPM, its not accurate, 4th gear pull. everything is in street settings, like it would be on pump 93...but it had a mix of 100 competition and 92...the mix turned out to be something like 97 octane. 2nd session, 3rd gear, RPMs from plug wire...so its accurate. Timing on det. thresh-hold, WOT problem adjusted (only getting 90% throt., as appoed to 100%, adjsuted the throt. cable), sstill has 97 mix. Ok, findings. Exhaust: It blows ALOT, ALOT more than you think. Serious gains are to be had in this department. Intake: not much more can be done other than the intake I have infront of the turbo, with the addition of a quality IC, spyder intake and XT6 throttle body. Cams: Unknown, to be tested later 9.5:1 SPFI shortblock under factory turbo stuff...DONT, unless you plan on using 100 competition fuel at all time, or you are not going to drive hard past 4500. Otherwise, its great for low end stuff below 4000 on pump gas...93 only tho. with 87, its not good at all. More on that later. Timing: If you are right on the detonation thresh-hold, you are loosing power. My second session I poped the timing up to the edge. On the first session, i left it alone as like it was running on 93 pump gas. So, much learned here. Fuel system: WAY WAY WAY RICH!!! Got richer as I went higher. It leaned out more and more with more timing, but lsot pwoer as you can see. Pleides RX did fine too running 10 PSI, it NEVER hit fuel cut, and it took him all day to get to 90 in the top of 4th. A good minute and some at 10 psi. No fuel cut! It was rich tho. Boost spike to, what was it? 14? I think our fuel systems are fine to a lot of boost, as long as intake air charge temps are down, and we've got larger turbos. Cooling: It was fine. Just turn the aux fan on. We both had the factory mechnical fan installed. Overall engine pull for so long under WOT: Both of us were quite pleased that they didnt scatter all over the place. Our 4th gear runs took all day to top out, and both engines were between 5 and 6 for some time,but didnt take long to get within 10 "mph" of the end. 3rd gear was better....if i had not messed with the timing. I'll be going back before the next dyno day, Read: euro ECU, pure 100 fuel, proper timing, better Downpipe/exhaust. ok, so i am kinda dissapointed. I was shooting for ATLEAST 180 WHP with the cams...but they were not installed...so i was hoping for at least 110. only 99. then 80 something for round 2. I think vehicle weight may have played something...but, the guys said it doent matter too much....but then again, different gear and timing settings. So, ive reatarded it some, and I will get that euro ECU installed, do pure 100...and go back sometime soon....if I can make some $$$ to cover that! lol. im broke. So, to everyone out there...work on your intake and exhaust first. no boost until thats done. THEN...adjust the timing. If you still get ping at ANY time...retard it. about 1~2 deg below the DTH (detontation thresh-hold) should be it. THEN...work on boost, and adjsut the timing accordingly, whether up or down. Now, i know there are other out there...Skipper, SubaruTex, and Dennis, and others who will think different...or same. Please post what you know. I want to get as much info before my next session. its $125 per hour, i want to know what I am going to do BEFORE i spend that again, and be ready to mod/chage things qucikly while its on the dyno. dj72: as soon as you can, i know that will be some time, post a real dyno chart. try to get it done on a mustang, for an apples to apples comparrison. If my weight calculation is correct, if the dyno thinks the XT is 3000 lbs or so, you will show more power than if its set to read a 2080 lb car...but its a theory. I will get my hands on a gtech, and play with it. Cornering Gs are my concern...but I'll use its little dyno stuff just for comparrison. more to come!

They seem to be pretty rigid...as my GL-10 is too. But the WRX and STi are way more stiffer, stock.

EJ adapter for EA trans.....EJ207 experiment with EA RX trans....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But...can you make these adapters to the general USMB? Or is this a special Rally only deal?

I will post a separate thread about this soon, when i get my pics up. Dynojet is BS. It is a mustang dyno. A new and freshly calibrated AWD mustang. Intake, down pipe, 9.5:1 SPFI shortblock. 100/93 octane mix fuel for the runs, about 97 octane after mix...and...a 1G BOV, rigged for recirculation. The best bang for the bucks, is: intake, exhaust from the heads back, larger turbo running 12-14 psi (or so) and a nice WRX intercooler with the BOV hooked up to recurculate. Otherwise, with the 9.5:1, cams, proting and other stuff, its really useless unless you actually tune the car with some kind of aftermarket ECU, and run competition fuel with the 9.5:1. Ive got a euro ECU, i was going to dyno with it.....but it got left at home. Again, a thread to post soon.

Great info! *drool*, hey is there gonna be an engine in my goodie package from the netherlands? Oh, i got 99.2 whole wheel HP at the dyno day today. thats about 141 est crank HP. Thats with a mixed fuel, about 97 octane, and the timing well below the detontation thresh-hold. I will make athread later about it.

best pull of 5...pics to come soon...99 whp. 141 est crank hp. Pleiades RX: 10 psi, cut airbox, glasspack exhaust, 83 whp, 118 est crank. here is pleiades pics, 1998 legacy GT, and the RX of his. http://www.subaruworld.net/dyno/dyno.html

DJ, here is the intake i am running. http://usmb.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9994&highlight=boost+creep That Downpipe is great, but i dont want the boost creep from it, so i have a stock DP, cut just before the end of the cat canister, and the cat is out of it. Still WAY better than stock.

There it is. Read thru it! Informational stuff if its true. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=352136&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

back in the stock AT days of the GL-10, it wouldnt got past 6400. Still wont go past 6500, even with no load.

Ive pulled an engine, torn it down to shortblock, replaced all the seals, put it together, and had it running in about 5 hrs. I had a shop tho....too bad i cant use that one anymore! Engine out and in, in less than 1 hr.