G-money22 Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 I was driving in the snow last week and hit a curb on the left rear. Now my wheel on the left is pushed in and the right rear is pushed out? So more or less my back left has positive camber and my back right wheel has negative camber. I was told by a local subie shop my frame is bent/ ihit the curb 20-35.mph any info or advice is much needed! car is a 1994 legacy L 4WD wagon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Check out Richie and his Dads shop, they can help you out and will do you right. http://www.superiorimportrepair.com/ And I always thought the worst enemy of any car was the driver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-money22 Posted December 19, 2010 Author Share Posted December 19, 2010 im thinking the hub or the rear crosmember is bent i live in vancouver WA no vibration or alignment problems? where is there a subie shop besides the dealer around here? dont want to tear up my tires does this sound plausible? the spindle looks pretty solid but who knows it may be bent? anyone else out there donkin curbs chime in dude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 it sounds to me as though you shifted the subframe over, im in pdx and can take a look for you i also have access to resonably priced replacements if needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 (edited) Frames, in general, on subarus will never bend based on curb hits. The engineers built the front lower control arms to bend first, which they do. The rear lower lateral links are designed to bend to save the frame. Depending on your year, you bent something, NOT the frame. Possible the rear lateral links, possible the strut piston, but I HIGHLY DOUBT betting money, you did not bend the frame. compare your suspension parts to one you see in a dealer lot, take note of what you have looking bent, and go replace the bent items, then get an alignment. brent related note, A guy over on Nasioc in a 2011 Sti was doing donuts in a snow covered lot (on summer tires) and hit some curbstops and bent stuff all out of wack. I gave him crap cause he can afford a brand new 2011 car, but he couldnt afford snow tires. I told him to sell the car, get a 2008 that he can also afford to buy snow tires and not *************** about wrecking on summer tires... Edited December 19, 2010 by Qman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-money22 Posted December 19, 2010 Author Share Posted December 19, 2010 if my subframe shifted did the bolts that hold the subframe to the car bend or what? the lateral links look ok? also the laeral links on my car are really stout bars have u guys ever personally seen a bent one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLCraig Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 im thinking the hub or the rear crosmember is bent i live in vancouver WA no vibration or alignment problems? where is there a subie shop besides the dealer around here? dont want to tear up my tires does this sound plausible? the spindle looks pretty solid but who knows it may be bent? anyone else out there donkin curbs chime in dude! The link that's in Turbone's post above is for a shop in Portland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 if my subframe shifted did the bolts that hold the subframe to the car bend or what? the lateral links look ok? also the laeral links on my car are really stout bars have u guys ever personally seen a bent one? i have shifted a subframe about 1/2 inch before, thats why i suggested it, it resulted in camber specs as you descibe. i went the the wreckers, got new bolts, pulled it back, and had it aligned.done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Frames, in general, on subarus will never bend based on curb hits. The engineers built the front lower control arms to bend first, which they do. The rear lower lateral links are designed to bend to save the frame. Depending on your year, you bent something, NOT the frame. Possible the rear lateral links, possible the strut piston, but I HIGHLY DOUBT betting money, you did not bend the frame. compare your suspension parts to one you see in a dealer lot, take note of what you have looking bent, and go replace the bent items, then get an alignment. brent related note, A guy over on Nasioc in a 2011 Sti was doing donuts in a snow covered lot (on summer tires) and hit some curbstops and bent stuff all out of wack. I gave him crap cause he can afford a brand new 2011 car, but he couldnt afford snow tires. I told him to sell the car, get a 2008 that he can also afford to buy snow tires and not *************** about wrecking on summer tires... That was a wongleflute move that was better left at NASIOC. Don't pull that here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruplatt Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Not sure if centre frame pull is your ultimate cure or what but! Press new bearing into affected spindles and replace all impacted hubs. I know because I have curbed before. It is possible that on your strut that a little dremel persuasion on the bolt holes will cure the hit and get the wheel upright again. But the hub will still be bent! If the bearings are damaged they might shift and Pop. However if the hubs are warped your brakes won't last long at all! Remember to replace after everything the bearings and the hubs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Everyone seems to be missing the fact that the opposite condition exists on the other side. Get it to an alignment shop and have them do an inspection. Or do as suggested above the visit Richie @ http://www.superiorimportrepair.com/ Keep guessing or just find out what the problem is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 that is why i suggested the subframe shifted qman- it would have opposite effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 that is why i suggested the subframe shifted qman- it would have opposite effect Sorry, not directed at you personally. I just notice a lot of people are not reading the entire post then try to "solve" the problem lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-money22 Posted December 20, 2010 Author Share Posted December 20, 2010 i went and got a new subframe at local u pull it i wiil see what happens this weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-money22 Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 so i jumped the gun and got the subframe in and the wheels still sit funny? and one side is higher than the other WTF? i remembered that when i hit the curb the rim was bent and i replaced with new and the thumping went away. the latteral links on the left were also replaced the only thing i havent replaced is the knuckle and the strut:mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 like i said-i have a shop in pdx, im a former alignmenet tech, ill help you out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-money22 Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 crawler dan what is the name of yuur shop want to get this thing figured out i need help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 call me at 503-333-1251 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I had this happen to me in my 98 Forester the road had a crown in it and I tried to do a 180 to turn by spinning.. well it kept going until it hit.. bent wheel and some suspension parts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-money22 Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 which suspension parts did u have to replace ? if you could remember that would be awesome man! any info related to past experiences with ************ing curbs is much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 nothing just the right rear camber was off what i cant remember is what happened to the bent wheel.. it was so bent it was rubbing on the rear strut tower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-money22 Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 I was thinking that the strut may be bent ? would an impact at the bottom of the wheel bend the strut? im getting really frustrated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 (edited) in my post #5, i wrote "Frames, in general, on subarus will never bend based on curb hits. The engineers built the front lower control arms to bend first, which they do. The rear lower lateral links are designed to bend to save the frame. Depending on your year, you bent something, NOT the frame. Possible the rear lateral links, possible the strut piston, but I HIGHLY DOUBT betting money, you did not bend the frame. " yes can you possibly put the car on jackstands, and take pictures of both suspesion sides, or even crawl under a non jacked up car and take pics. It will help unless you have a local person willing to give you advice. I want to see the metal bars and such to check. Edited December 23, 2010 by bheinen74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-money22 Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 im retarded with computers i dont know how to upload or waht not pictures? but if im looking at the suspension i cant see ************ wrong if somthing is bent its very slight? has anyone ever herd of a rear subframe bending before seems like that woulb bend before a strut. im thinkin strut latteral links spindle sub frame. replace all of these things it should straighten out. maybe an axle too? without pics im probly wasting ur guys time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subruise Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 you mentioned "hitting the bottom of the wheel bending strut?) etc. the answer is yes. why? lever action. think about it, if you hit a strut with the force of say.......a subaru doing 10+ mph youd bend it. my experience with bent stuff/body shops has taught me that bent stuff looks right until straight stuff is presented. RV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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