1-3-2-4 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 lets see all major engine changes are from '96 and onwards right? a 96 was the last year for dual port headers? and the last for the HLA? I'm trying to figure out what year's to avoid dealing with. I'm in no big rush I at least 9 weeks to pay around before I get serious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 96 is single port. what are you looking for, an EJ22? for EJ22's: 1995-1996 is non-interference. 97+ is interference. 1996+ is single port. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 an EJ22 is fine I just could not remember if 96 was the cut off year for single port or dual. I'm not a fan of single ports more so after having my nice headers on my crashed car :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 man nice 2001 forester 5MT listed for $2K but did the HG have issues then still? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWDfreak Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 2001 should have the Phase II EJ25, it's probably just external head gasket issues. If it was a 1998, I would stay faaaaar away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 (edited) 2001 should have the Phase II EJ25, it's probably just external head gasket issues. If it was a 1998, I would stay faaaaar away. 1998 & 1999 share the same issue right as far as the headgaskets and whole bottom end issue? I would have to get some amazing deal on the forester.. but most likely going to stick with the legacy the only forester I loved was my '03 FXS so it's now between a 95-00 Legacy I'm looking at. Edited February 22, 2011 by 1-3-2-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durania Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Everybody bashes the 95 Outback because of it being short a tad over an inch on ground clearance but I absolutely love mine to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 funny thing is I tried so hard to get an outback until I found my then legacy for $400 in Brooklyn, NY last year alone I put 30K on the car.. for it being 230,000+ it was very good. I will never forget.. 195,065 is what it had when I picked it up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 '99 Legacy L wagons where interference engines right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster2 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 '99 Legacy L wagons where interference engines right? Pretty sure that I have read that any Leggie either 2.2 or 2.5 starting with year 1997 and afterwards is an interference motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 Pretty sure that I have read that any Leggie either 2.2 or 2.5 starting with year 1997 and afterwards is an interference motor. I just don't want to screw up anything when I do the timing belt.. a Ej22 for 1999 would still be a SOHC right? and the EJ25 would be DOHC? edit yep just checked cars101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 are the 2000-2003 Legacy L models dual port heads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durania Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I would think they were. Remember the head gasket stuff on those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 It seems like Vermont is the best place to find a 5MT without a crazy over priced amount.. about 200 miles from here which is not that bad. I've been before a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1982gl4 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 It seems like Vermont is the best place to find a 5MT without a crazy over priced amount.. about 200 miles from here which is not that bad. I've been before a few times. DO NOT BUY ONE UP HERE You will end up with a rust pice o crap that you can not keep ahead of. I buy all of my cars from the south now due to our massive rust issues. Lately the newest thing we are seeing, is the rear subframes rusting out of the car, even when the rest of it still looks good. There's a reason they are less money...RUST! If you buy a new enough one it will be fine, but all the second gen legos are rusty up here. Just a warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Every 4 cyl '97 and later, no matter the engine, is interference. 96-99 DOHC ej25 any car, has internal HG failure issue and are susceptible to rod bearing failure due to overheating. 2000 and later SOHC ej25 any car, may have external HG leaks that can be contained using Subaru coolant conditioner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 DO NOT BUY ONE UP HERE You will end up with a rust pice o crap that you can not keep ahead of. I buy all of my cars from the south now due to our massive rust issues. Lately the newest thing we are seeing, is the rear subframes rusting out of the car, even when the rest of it still looks good. There's a reason they are less money...RUST! If you buy a new enough one it will be fine, but all the second gen legos are rusty up here. Just a warning. hmm what about a 99? my late legacy was new from MA then later moved to NY then finally me the 3rd owner was here in CT. I did not think VT was big on salting the roads. my legacy only had 4 rust bubbles but no like huge holes or anything crazy like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Every 4 cyl '97 and later, no matter the engine, is interference. 96-99 DOHC ej25 any car, has internal HG failure issue and are susceptible to rod bearing failure due to overheating. 2000 and later SOHC ej25 any car, may have external HG leaks that can be contained using Subaru coolant conditioner. well hopefully it wont be a pain to do the timing belt.. all I remember is something like the cams can't be both turned the same way or something like that.. I'd just turn the whole engine over before hand before turning the key... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 It's not that bad as long as you set everything at the proper marks for timing belt change. The marks align the cams where they are not loaded by the valves, or at least are not loaded in such a way that they will kick out of place once the belt is removed. The DOHC engines are the only ones you really need to worry about since the cams can spin opposite directions and pin valves against valves. With the SOHC engines there's no way to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 It's not that bad as long as you set everything at the proper marks for timing belt change. The marks align the cams where they are not loaded by the valves, or at least are not loaded in such a way that they will kick out of place once the belt is removed. The DOHC engines are the only ones you really need to worry about since the cams can spin opposite directions and pin valves against valves. With the SOHC engines there's no way to do that. yeah my SOHC was easy to do once you find the right marks.. So how do you keep the cams from popping out of place? Is it the same for the SOHC? I used a spring clip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 You set them at the marks and leave them alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 You set them at the marks and leave them alone. hahaha man i wont have enough saved until at least around end of April I can feel like I have enough to work with after bills and so on.. That a long time without another Subaru I do know the sway bars will be one of the first things I upgrade.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1982gl4 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 VT is huge on salting roads cars up are lucky if they last 10 years. I would look for one anywhere but here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-3-2-4 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 hmm that's a shame.. I did see an 97 outback here for like $2500 if only I had the money right now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
987687 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Get one with a blown engine and do a swap. Makes for nice cheap cars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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