May 3, 201213 yr Author Well, I tried welding a nut onto the stud, but for some reason I didn't get enough penetration into the stud. Are these bolts weldable? I was also thinking in cutting a slit/notch into the stud and use a plain screwdriver and see if I can remove it that way. I really don't want to drill it out and try to tap it, Where can I get a good reverse extractor?
May 3, 201213 yr Well, I tried welding a nut onto the stud, but for some reason I didn't get enough penetration into the stud. Are these bolts weldable? I was also thinking in cutting a slit/notch into the stud and use a plain screwdriver and see if I can remove it that way. I really don't want to drill it out and try to tap it, Where can I get a good reverse extractor? weld a washer onto the stud then place a larger nut over the stud and weld the nut to the washer. that's how my exhaust guy pulls busted off exhaust studs... and sometimes, a reverse drill bit will work the same as an extractor as it's cutting into the metal... I think my extractors are craftsman brand. I used one the other day for an oil pump bolt...
May 3, 201213 yr Author Well, I used an Irwin extractor and was an epic fail. It pretty much did what I thought it would have, just kinda chewed it and now the hole in the stud is now off to one side (The stud cracked somewhat on the thin side) So I now messed up the threads I'm sure. So what is now my next option? Getting moderately frustrated because it was such a simple task and part. :-\ Edited May 3, 201213 yr by TheLoyale
May 4, 201213 yr Author Will an '82 Hatch have the Hitachi intake? I am looking at one in Wadsworth, IL, and the pickn'pull would only charge me $22.99 for the intake! Figured I would pick up a spare either way. I forgot to look at the carb last time I was there.
May 4, 201213 yr Will an '82 Hatch have the Hitachi intake? I am looking at one in Wadsworth, IL, and the pickn'pull would only charge me $22.99 for the intake! Figured I would pick up a spare either way. I forgot to look at the carb last time I was there. if it was 4wd, then I think yes, but not sure. The only C/W I've had was off a '84 2wd wagon. I had an '82 2wd wagon that was a hitachi, and all the other '82's I've had were hitachis. I've had another '82 2wd, but it was a coupe with an AT, and it was a hitachi as well...
May 4, 201213 yr Got a Hitachi intake sitting here, not going to need it. edit; Also have an EA82 intake with Weber I ran on two different EA81 engines. I could let you talk me out of it for the right price. Edited May 4, 201213 yr by TomRhere added info
May 4, 201213 yr Whatever you do, don't use one of those reverse extractor things. They rarely work. If they do work, something else would have also worked. Like left hand drill bits. Most of the time if they don't make a huge mess of the stud, go off to one side, and ruin the threads. They'll just break off. Then you have a really big mess.
May 4, 201213 yr Author Mick, Good info. This brings hope to the situation. Tom, I would be interested in the EA81 intake, but I bet shipping would run more than $25. Plus I need it asap. 987687, Guess I learn my lesson.
May 4, 201213 yr Author Well this problem is pretty much solved. Tom is gonna send me a good EA81 manifold. This helps me immensely, as I don't have to rush down to IL and pull the intake before the yard scraps the car, seeing as I only have about $12 right now Haha. Tom, thank you big time!
May 4, 201213 yr Well this problem is pretty much solved. Tom is gonna send me a good EA81 manifold. This helps me immensely, as I don't have to rush down to IL and pull the intake before the yard scraps the car, seeing as I only have about $12 right now Haha. Tom, thank you big time! you need to soak the snot out of the intake manifold bolts and go really slow or you'll be going through the same thing with a busted bolt into the heads....
May 4, 201213 yr Author you need to soak the snot out of the intake manifold bolts and go really slow or you'll be going through the same thing with a busted bolt into the heads.... 100% gotcha on this! I am already soaking them and will continue to all week. I actually went pretty slow and took precaution with the Thermostat cover too, but I don't think it could have been helped (Lesson learned) I was gonna replace the Intake gaskets anyway, so I guess this gives me an excuse to do so. I am also going to clean up and repaint the new intake, might as well since its off. I've never had an issue taking intake bolts (Any bolts) off the EA82 or EJs, why do the EA81s have such issues? 9 years really can't make a difference.
May 4, 201213 yr 100% gotcha on this! I am already soaking them and will continue to all week. I actually went pretty slow and took precaution with the Thermostat cover too, but I don't think it could have been helped (Lesson learned) I was gonna replace the Intake gaskets anyway, so I guess this gives me an excuse to do so. I am also going to clean up and repaint the new intake, might as well since its off. I've never had an issue taking intake bolts (Any bolts) off the EA82 or EJs, why do the EA81s have such issues? 9 years really can't make a difference. the ones that have been the sketchiest for me, where ones where the gaskets had seeped coolant into the bolt area, and dried, creating the sort of heat fused crust in the threads... whenever I put the bolts back in, I always wire wheel them shiny and anti-seize them... and new good intake manifold gaskets...
May 4, 201213 yr Author Maybe I'll get lucky and won't have that crusty build up on mine, but either way, I am SOAKING them! I always clean the threads and anti-seize bolts (I use motor oil for Head bolts) Am I crazy for selling a runing/driving '95 Outback with a swapped working 4EAT, to buy this car...? Here is the stub, before and after I used the Extractor bit. the ones that have been the sketchiest for me, where ones where the gaskets had seeped coolant into the bolt area, and dried, creating the sort of heat fused crust in the threads... whenever I put the bolts back in, I always wire wheel them shiny and anti-seize them... and new good intake manifold gaskets...
May 5, 201213 yr Author Is Heli-Coil an option as well? I've never done it. Here is a kit for M8x1.25 http://www.ebay.com/itm/25-Piece-Helicoil-Thread-Repair-Kit-M8-x-1-25mm-Internal-Threads-/270968227247?hash=item3f16f705af&item=270968227247&pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&vxp=mtr#ht_1791wt_820 And these are the correct Intake gaskets, right? http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=125061 Edited May 5, 201213 yr by TheLoyale
May 5, 201213 yr helicoil will do. i have done it with exhaust studs and timing belt idler pulley. I havent done one that small, but it would be done the same.
May 5, 201213 yr Author helicoil will do. i have done it with exhaust studs and timing belt idler pulley. I havent done one that small, but it would be done the same. Indeed, I've seen people do them on exhaust studs as well. I might try and do this to my currant intake so I have a good spare, either for my self or someone else.
May 5, 201213 yr Author I think this is the most I've torn into one of my vehicles. I successfully welded in a rocker! Kinda felt good to have that work out
May 5, 201213 yr Author Quick VIN check using a Dealers URL. http://www.lincolndealer.com/CPO/AutoCheck?PaCode=07934&VIN=jf2am53b9de447049#full-history
May 6, 201213 yr Author Played around with the Brat today, since I ran out of fluxcore wire. Changed the wheels/hubs, and am planning on making a rear tire carrier and bed rack. I also shorted up the rack for the roof. Here is what I accomplished on the rear car today! Better shot of how well the rockers came out!
May 6, 201213 yr Author lol where did you get that R/C brat from? I bought it new a few years back from Towerhobbies. I had it forsale on here yesterday, but after being low balled twice, I took it off the market, and decided to modify it like I've always wanted to do. Edited May 6, 201213 yr by TheLoyale
May 6, 201213 yr actually have 2 of the Brat RCs - one original 1983 version, and the re-release version with the 2 different bodies. Yours looks pretty darn good there, Tom - where did you get the roof basket from? Want one!! LOL
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