Eric4 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 I'm completely new to this and know next to nothing about Subarus. I came across a 2.9l er27 stroker that's supercharger and was built by professionals for a really car anyone know what these engines can handle? How much boost/hp/torque I dont even have a guess the price is $1200 for motor+trans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Garbage. Not worth $1 let alone $1200. GD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 5 hours ago, GeneralDisorder said: Garbage. Not worth $1 let alone $1200. GD No to you. Some ER27 die hard might wet their pants over it. @Eric4 - if you’re new to this, look into an engine that doesn’t necessarily require specialist knowledge and a stash of parts for the odd Sunday drive. More fun and reliability would be dropping in an EZ (correct GD, I’m not gear with the 3 and 3.6L engines) with aftermarket management. Then your gearbox becomes the issue, and your brakes on the EA platform. What’s this purchase going into anyway? All that said, conversions aren’t for novices unless you have a good, knowledgeable mechanic and very deep pockets! Keep researching, ask appropriate questions that you don’t find answers to in your research. Keep the links of good info for reference Cheers Bennie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric4 Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 Well I'm currently doing a ls swap in a Mitsubishi starion so I like to think I have some knowledge I was just wondering if this is a crazy deal or not? And I dont know what I'd put it in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodog Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 there is some suspect that the engine isnt as highly modded as they are saying, no details kinda sus. also, its still basically an EA clutch so high performance? more like stock lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 The problem with those older model engines is so many parts are NLA. If you have a car that needs that engine, and you want it more or less stock, get any you find for parts. But as a swap or something to try to make performance mods on, not a good choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 8 hours ago, Eric4 said: Well I'm currently doing a ls swap in a Mitsubishi starion so I like to think I have some knowledge I was just wondering if this is a crazy deal or not? And I dont know what I'd put it in Awesome. Look into boosting the 3.6L H6. Been done a few times and ppl are getting good results from these builds. A sand rail could be fun Cheers Bennie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Eric4 said: Well I'm currently doing a ls swap in a Mitsubishi starion so I like to think I have some knowledge I was just wondering if this is a crazy deal or not? And I dont know what I'd put it in No way. for $1,200 there are way better platforms. That is really neat as a data point and novelty item. If that’s your goal then yes do it. It would probably be the only one in the US...I know of one and this might be it (more on that later). Ive been daily driving and playing with the ER27 for 25+ years and have a few now. They’re fine daily drivers, and horrible swap or performance platforms. Everything about them is low grade in terms of cooling, heads, intake, Siamesed exhaust, craptastic 2 valves per cylinder. They can be reliable and do well in a daily driver. That’s it. It ends there anything else is subject massively to the law of diminishing returns. It’s cool to tinker if you have an XT6. but as a starting point for a project, or even building a performance XT, it’s bottom shelf material. you’ll be buying yourself into a low performing (relatively speaking), eternally choked and hamstrung, no parts available, wannabe. So that’s all 100% true if this listing is accurate to the most positive degree. Still a terrible option and poor deal. But as it stands - this is a build with sparse details and is 12 years old. That kind of description almost never favors the buyer. Surely if you’re a car guy building an LS youve been around the block and know this. unknown miles and how many times was it raced or rallied? Was it built to be rebuilt every 40k like a race car? So many times people call things “performance”, “built”, “supercharged”, “rebuilt”, “stroker” - and it has new headgaskets, one step lower temp plugs, and horrific camber front tires. They can be reliable and great engines...but not for performance and other than keeping an XT6 stock, Id do a hard pass on an ER27 except for maintaining a stock daily driver. A guy in Philly built a supercharged XT6 about that long ago in the Philly area and I’ve spoken with him many moons ago. If that’s his engine then he did seem to spare little expense. he was trying to sell the car like a decade ago. If this is his then it might be a good build but all the above still holds true. Edited January 24, 2021 by idosubaru 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric4 Posted January 24, 2021 Author Share Posted January 24, 2021 I will not be getting lol thank you all for the answer I really appreciate it!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I missed that this includes the trans - that does make it more interesting if you’re into old gens. In a sense it’s $600 for an engine and $600 for a trans. That’s not unreasonable for someone with an XT to poke around with. And yes this is the engine that I’m aware of. I know the original owners name, it was 1.5 hours from where I’m from. Considerable time and $ was put into that engine. So of all the “built Subaru” engines for sale this one has a significant chance of being a legit good build. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric4 Posted January 24, 2021 Author Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 hour ago, idosubaru said: I missed that this includes the trans - that does make it more interesting if you’re into old gens. In a sense it’s $600 for an engine and $600 for a trans. That’s not unreasonable for someone with an XT to poke around with. And yes this is the engine that I’m aware of. I know the original owners name, it was 1.5 hours from where I’m from. Considerable time and $ was put into that engine. So of all the “built Subaru” engines for sale this one has a significant chance of being a legit good build. That's impressive thabks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodog Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 6 hours ago, idosubaru said: I missed that this includes the trans - that does make it more interesting if you’re into old gens. In a sense it’s $600 for an engine and $600 for a trans. That’s not unreasonable for someone with an XT to poke around with. And yes this is the engine that I’m aware of. I know the original owners name, it was 1.5 hours from where I’m from. Considerable time and $ was put into that engine. So of all the “built Subaru” engines for sale this one has a significant chance of being a legit good build. do you know how this was stroked? does he have a write up somewhere? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, turbodog said: do you know how this was stroked? does he have a write up somewhere? No he didn’t offer much info and I think had a shop doing it, (which I think is much of the high costs), so he may not have known many specifics. He’d occasionally have questions and I’d offer feedback. He was on the now non-operational XT/XT6 forum during the build and offered the entire vehicle for sale some years later. RAM engines had the most feedback and information and publicly available experience about pistons for EA and ER turbos and building these engines. I have no idea if they supplied any of the parts for this or not. Just mentioning them because that’s the only extensive information ever about what you’re asking They moved from Ohio to SC and it looks like much of their online content, and overall focus, on EA/ER engines is gone. They had suppliers of oversized and forced induction pistons and rings for them. And I think larger valves. I’ve been to their shop, met them, posted components and prices on the non-working Subaru XT/XT6, and watched them run engines on a stand....like 10-15 years ago or so. But that’s all inaccessible now due to a complicated set of probably irresolvable issues regarding the XT website. Edited January 24, 2021 by idosubaru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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