njdrsubaru Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 what should i do guys? i'm doing a timeing belt job and the bolt is stripped and just keeps on turning and wont come out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcspeer Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Is the bolt turning are the socket turning on the bolt head? what should i do guys? i'm doing a timeing belt job and the bolt is stripped and just keeps on turning and wont come out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerFahrer Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 You might as well chuck the engine, because the crank is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 wow, someone beat that thing to crap to strip it. sounds like a complete pain the rear to me. i only have suggestions: heat the bolt, try tightening it, try air tools, try the "starter method" in hopes that does something? if you get it out, the crank may or may not (never checked) be tapped deeper than the crank pulley bolt, so a longer bolt may work. that is true on most bolt holes in the engine...but the crank pulley i do not know. if you remove the covers the timing belt may be replaceable without removing the crank. but then you'd still want a way to lock the crank bolt solid. was the car running like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdrsubaru Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 yeah the car is running fine just leaking oil from the crank seal, i need to replace it becasue it leaks alot, and i need to get that bolt out of there and replace with a new one, grrrrr, how about pry out the pulley while unbolting it? will it work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 oh yes, prying on the head while turning can definitely work. so it came out a little bit at least? if that's the case you can try screwing it back in, then back out, back in and then back out...sometimes that will free it up as well. but at this point the easiest, best and quickest method is definitely prying on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avk Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 You can't pry against the plastic cover but using a puller might work. Can pry between the bolt head and the pulley, if there's a gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 the prying would be bewteen the crank pulley and the bolt head most likely. that's the ideal case, so should'nt have to mess with the plastic covers unless you'd want to pry on the pulley. but i'd look to get the pry bar right under the bolt head which resides againt the pulley, no harm on the plastic covers there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdrsubaru Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 what if i break the plastic covers, how important is that? can i put everything back together without the palstic cover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avk Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 It's true you may just as well sacrifice the cover in a case like this. But if you pry too hard against the oil pump behind, it could be sacrificed too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 plastic covers don't matter, but i'm not sure why you'd need to pry behind the pulley. the bolt head rests against the crank pulley, so you should be prying a between the bolt head and pulley...not sure why the plastic or oil pump is even in the equation here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2X2KOB Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 How did it get stripped? Is it the threads or the bolt flats that are stripped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdrsubaru Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 plastic covers don't matter, but i'm not sure why you'd need to pry behind the pulley. the bolt head rests against the crank pulley, so you should be prying a between the bolt head and pulley...not sure why the plastic or oil pump is even in the equation here. well there is no space between the pulley and the bolt head so i will have to go behind the pulley and possibly crack the cover... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdrsubaru Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 How did it get stripped? Is it the threads or the bolt flats that are stripped? i have no idea i went to do a timming belt job and found out that the bolt is not threading out.... it just keeps on turning and nothing happens.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericem Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 i have no idea i went to do a timming belt job and found out that the bolt is not threading out.... it just keeps on turning and nothing happens.... it sounds like a simple solution, you are talking about the bolt infront of the harmonic pulley correct? Can you just use a screw remover, however u need to get a short drill, or remove the engine, or remove the rad. Then get a new bolt? correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdrt Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Heat it up red hot with a torch, and pound smaller socket onto it than hit it with an impact gun. I beleive they are 21mm bolt heads so a 20 mm will work, you may need to remove the radiator, and plastic covers. Don pry youll just break other stuff and still not get it. You could also try the starter method. it almost always works. Seriously, I would take it to the dealer, and pay the 80$ to have it removed rather than tearing up more stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdrsubaru Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 yeah true but how hard is to drill into that bolt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericem Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 yeah true but how hard is to drill into that bolt? i would think its hardened, but im sure if u get a really good quality screw remover you shouldn't have any issues. Hopefully that bolt will come out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdrsubaru Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 thanks guys again that bolt wasnt "born" there!! that sucker is coming off this weekend!!! its war time!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outbackusjunkus Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I would try to pry off first, before drilling or doing anything that would weaken the bolt. If that sucker breaks off clean you're really in trouble...happened to me once, tried to drill out but eventually had to scrap the crank. If it's a 2.5 I've got a set of timing covers around here somewhere...good luck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdrsubaru Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 ok another question, after i get that damn bolt out, i need to change the crank seal, how hard is to remove the seal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospeeder Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 blah those mains can be a ***************, mine didnt want to budge, you can get a Main seal remover, or you can try to drill holes in it and thres screws into it and pull it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdrsubaru Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 oh ic another thing to fight with, arrrrghhhhh, I HAVE DECLARED WAR ON MY IMPREZA!!!!! its gonna happen or its the junk yard! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olnick Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I HAVE DECLARED WAR ON MY IMPREZA!!!!! Hold on there a minute, bucko! IIRC the main seal comes out very easily if you remove the oil pump--which you need to do anyway to check the screws holding the pumps backplate and to replace the o-ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Don pry youll just break other stuff and still not get it. You could also try the starter method. it almost always works. Seriously, I would take it to the dealer, and pay the 80$ to have it removed rather than tearing up more stuff. you realize the bolt is stripped right? have you ever dealt with a stripped crank bolt before? the dealer will likely say "new engine needed" and if they do manage to get it out, it will be more than $80. the starter method and air tools will probably not make a difference here. maybe, but not necessarily, i think you're thinking of just a really tight crank pulley bolt...this one is stripped. though i would certainly try the starter and air tools, it is worth a shot. if you can't get the bolt head and have to go behind the pulley, get as close to the crank shaft as you can so you're pushing dead center on the pulley. build up something to leverage against with wood or metal, so you're not directly pressing on something important...oil pump for instance. crank seals are easy in my oppinion. sometimes annoying to remove, but not a big deal at all, they always come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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