subarari Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 I have an 87 subaru DL SPFI wagon that's doing something really wierd. When I'm on a big sweeping on/off ramp in third gear at about 3k or so and hold it steady throughout, then upshift to enter the highway I get this bigass smokescreen and my car bogs. If I put the clutch in and rev her up it clears out and then I can go on my way. I'm not burning any oil or water on a daily basis while it's running. I first noticed this when I changed the PCV valve and I'm wondering if the new one is faulty. Anyone got any ideas about this one? Thanks Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyewdall Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Yup, sounds like a faulty PCV valve.... Or could just be the nature of the boxer engine -- a long right turn the engine oil all flows sideways into one cylinder bank -- if you park the car at a severe tilt for a while it'll smoke for a while upon startup too. I note this very rarely on mine though -- light smoke for a long right turn on freeway, and the only other time I've noticed it was when I stuck it in a ditch at a 30 degree side angle for a few hours before getting pulled out. Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 This is one of two things (and its not unusual). Its either the pcv valve or the valve stem seals. It takes very little oil to make a hell of a lot of smoke. Mine did the same thing, but only on one ramp specifically. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 There was a recall that addressed this issue with the early SPFI's. The fix is a change in the size of the port in one of the plastic connectors for the breather system, and a cap that blocks off a hole in the intake boot. It's a really simple fix that you can pickup off any early 90's Loyale at the junk yard. Just look at how the breather hoses are routed at the intake boot and you will see what peices you need to replace. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfire Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 . Just look at how the breather hoses are routed at the intake boot and you will see what peices you need to replace. GD i have one i have not installed yet. i can dig it out and take picture for you if you need to see it. if that would help.:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subieman Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Here is a thread that might help you out. Has pictures of the PCV kit and part numbers http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16162 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoomer Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 if its valve stem seals. hyperlube stop smoke works.!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONAN Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 My 87 spfi did the exact same thing and I took it in and had the recall kit installed. No more problems after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Should I be able to just call a local dealer and get this recall kit? I guess it would probably be easiest to just snag it at the junkyard, but if I can get new pieces for free, so much the better. How have I never heard about this before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Damn, this info would have been great about 12 years ago. We had the exact same problem on an 88 gl spfi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast I Drive Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Here's whats happening; Because the engine is horizantally opposed, any lateral g force forces oil into the cylinder head, and it goes into the cylinder and burns. Mine does it on curved freeway ramps too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misledxcracker Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 I have a 1985 model date coupe... the thing's got the old PCV hoses. So wait a minute here... I can go to a local Subaru dealer and have them install the PCV kit for free, aye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subarari Posted July 29, 2007 Author Share Posted July 29, 2007 Thanks for the responses...so it sounds like an easy fix, but I'm not sure if I know exactly where your talking about. Dragonfire if your still up for taking those pictures that'd be great. Are these kits still available fro the dealer? Is this something that can be fabricated? I'll try the junkyards around here and see if any have subies Thanks Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Before you spend any money on a fix yourself, call your local subaru dealer and ask the service department about the pcv recall from the late 80's. If it hasn't been performed they have to do it for you on their dime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrinc Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 I'm not sure this was a recall: it may have only been a TSB. Either way, the time period has lapsed on doing that fix for free. You used to be able to get the kit for about $7 but I think that price is history too. I do believe they are still available from dealers because the SPFI engine was sold through '94. Junk yard's your best bet. (Oh, and replace the PCV valve with a Genuine one at the same time.) Emily http://www.ccrengines.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLENN"S854x4wagon Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 is it white smoke if so check the transmission moduler i dont know if that year has the same one as my 85 but i got a 85 subaru gl station wagon 4x4 for 400 bucks cuz it smoked white smoke 45 bucks and no more smoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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