hatchsub Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I have an EA81 5 speed sedan and i want a shorter shifter. What is the best way to do this. I was planning on cutting it down to a good lenth with a hack saw then cutting new 12mmX1.25 threads with a die. Is this possible or is the better method to cut it off down low, cut out a chunk of the shifter, then weld it together shorter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 "Short", and "short throw" are different. Which do you want? The EA81 trans isn't really suited to speed shifting - a short throw shifter might not really work out well. You may end up having to conciously shift slower to compensate for the throw being so short if you end up with any grinding, ect. If you want it to be short throw you have to move the pivot point down in relation to the location of the shift rod. That usually means adding a section between the pivot and the shift rod connection. Then you can shorten the shifter as well to keep the height the same, or shorten it more to give it the "short" shifter as well. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchsub Posted June 8, 2008 Author Share Posted June 8, 2008 i dont really need it to be a "short throw" but just shorten the shifter rod. Its extremely tall and it would feel more precise i believe if i shortened the rod. In other words im not interested in changing the pivot point, Im just interested in shortening the chrome shift rod. Not sure if its easier to cut new threads or to cut it down and weld it on shorter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beataru Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Someone on here has done that... I cant remember who, it was on my thread that had like 10 billion posts on it. (it was deleted) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 You can't weld on the shifter - it's nylon insulated against vibration. You will melt the plastic inside that pretty chrome tube. Better to cut the thing off and replace with solid rod - threaded to your liking. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 You can't weld on the shifter - it's nylon insulated against vibration. You will melt the plastic inside that pretty chrome tube. Better to cut the thing off and replace with solid rod - threaded to your liking. GD If you're careful you can do it. I did it on my '78 Brat I had since the tall shifter meant I kept putting my knuckles awfully close to the stereo I had. I cut the threads off the top, cut out about 5" of rod, then welded the threads back on since I couldn't source up a 12x1.25 tap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchsub Posted June 9, 2008 Author Share Posted June 9, 2008 Ok didnt realize that it wasnt a solid piece of metal. I have the 12mmX1.25 die so in theory is the metal soft enough for me to just cut it off and cut new threads? Or will that leave an opening at the top of the shifter rod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s'ko Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Ok didnt realize that it wasnt a solid piece of metal. I have the 12mmX1.25 die so in theory is the metal soft enough for me to just cut it off and cut new threads? Or will that leave an opening at the top of the shifter rod? The rod where the shifter knob screws onto is solid. The thicker part below that is not solid. So it just depends on how much you cut off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Ok didnt realize that it wasnt a solid piece of metal. I have the 12mmX1.25 die so in theory is the metal soft enough for me to just cut it off and cut new threads? Or will that leave an opening at the top of the shifter rod? I know the top section of the EA82 shifter is soft. When I put my stainless shift knob on, I noticed that the threads only went partway down the 'threaded' part of the rod. I used a lugnut to cut the rest of the threads into the metal. It dropped my knob down a little over an inch.. Just about perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchsub Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 Shortened it!!! I just threaded the die onto the existing threads and went down another inch or a bit more with the threads. Then i cut off 2 inches of the shifter rod and screwed the shift knob back on. Looks great and feels even better. Its a lot less sloppy and more defined where each gear is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backwoodsboy Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 TTIWWOP :-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooparu Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 any photos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountaingoatgruff Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 any photos? yes, of course - pics please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchsub Posted June 24, 2008 Author Share Posted June 24, 2008 Lol i dont have before and afters but ill run out and snap a photo of it for you guys. Forgot that everyone on here is pictures nutz...including myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky92 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Steve I will take a pic of mine and we will say its a before shot of yours...but explaining the blue might be interesting:-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchsub Posted June 24, 2008 Author Share Posted June 24, 2008 Lol a comparison shot. What the height of mine was before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchsub Posted June 24, 2008 Author Share Posted June 24, 2008 You asked for it..you got it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooparu Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael appel Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I just did mine on my e82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountaingoatgruff Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 very nice! i particularly like that wood knob, hatchsub. how does it feel shortened? does it require more effort to fully engage each gear after the loss of leverage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchsub Posted June 26, 2008 Author Share Posted June 26, 2008 very nice! i particularly like that wood knob, hatchsub. how does it feel shortened? does it require more effort to fully engage each gear after the loss of leverage? Maybe just a hair but the advantage of not having so much slop in the shifter is worth it. Its very easy to shift it right the first time (and before anyone asks i already replaced bushings). All in all i would recomend it. Its a better height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Someone on here has done that... I cant remember who, it was on my thread that had like 10 billion posts on it. (it was deleted) Well... I`ve Posted this Pic Before, it is my Yellow Wagon`s Shortened Shifter, with Stainless Steel + Aluminium Knob to add "Feeling" Shorter Shift is Better (I Think) also I Think That`s Why Newer Cars comes with Short Shifter too... Your Shortened Shifters looks Very Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 ... ...(and before anyone asks i already replaced bushings)... ... Great Idea, I did that too. Also I Wanna add that Shorter Shifter Doesn`t Interfere with the CD Loading / Unloading at the Stereo, and Avoid to Hit it on Rush Shiftin` Situations... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchsub Posted June 26, 2008 Author Share Posted June 26, 2008 Well... I`ve Posted this Pic Before, it is my Yellow Wagon`s Shortened Shifter, with Stainless Steel + Aluminium Knob to add "Feeling" Shorter Shift is Better (I Think) also I Think That`s Why Newer Cars comes with Short Shifter too... Your Shortened Shifters looks Very Nice! This is actually one of the reasons i did it. I saw yours and decided i wanted one too. Love the metal shift knob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountaingoatgruff Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Love the metal shift knob. and the rubber boot. looks like a nice custom job, gives it a much better look than those butt ugly ea82 boots.:-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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