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U Joints Question

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I took my one peice drive line out of my ea81 86 hatch in to the shop to see about getting it lengthend and i was curious about the 2 peice from the wagons, and asked the guy which he would recomend, he said the one peice because the u joints are replacable??? the 2 peice the joints are not replacable, is this true?

 

SS:-\

is that stock config that has one piece driveline? i've often thought about getting a one piece shaft made for my XT6 - but didn't know if this is bad mojo. like too much stress or it would wobble or have play that damages the trans input ?

 

the 2 piece joints aren't "replaceable" ujoints, but they are replaceable. confused yet? let me explain.

 

the stock joints are staked in ujoints and are not meant to be replaced. but rockford makes a replacement ujoint for them. with a bit of careful work you can swap out the stock joints for rockford joints and once you're done they are replaceable. i have a shaft i did that too.

On my 1987 i had the driveshaft rebuilt. They Used U joints from a ford ranger that were servicable and could be lubricated. Dont go with a one peice driveshaft. You could possibly shake the car apart.

 

nipper

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is that stock config that has one piece driveline? i've often thought about getting a one piece shaft made for my XT6 - but didn't know if this is bad mojo. like too much stress or it would wobble or have play that damages the trans input ?

 

the 2 piece joints aren't "replaceable" ujoints, but they are replaceable. confused yet? let me explain.

 

the stock joints are staked in ujoints and are not meant to be replaced. but rockford makes a replacement ujoint for them. with a bit of careful work you can swap out the stock joints for rockford joints and once you're done they are replaceable. i have a shaft i did that too.

 

 

they guy said as long as the drive line isnt directly straight and level from the rear end to the tranny( that causes viberation) it has to have some degree of an angel not to steep but not to flat, if that makes sense. Im doing the 4spd 4x4 to 5 spd 4x4 swop and didnt know which drive line to use so i took them in and they guy said the one peice because the u joints.

Dont go with a one peice driveshaft. You could possibly shake the car apart.

 

EA81s all have one-piece shafts. and they work fine. and many people just have the length modified for the EA82 5MT, still one-piece, still just 2 u-joints, works fine.

 

 

I've heard problems with them in EA82s. but having just had the u-joints in my 2-piece fail anyway, I'm going to switch to a one-piece.

 

 

 

keep in mind, if you switch to a 2-piece. you'll have to mount a carrier bearing.

I took my one peice drive line out of my ea81 86 hatch in to the shop to see about getting it lengthend and i was curious about the 2 peice from the wagons, and asked the guy which he would recomend, he said the one peice because the u joints are replacable??? the 2 peice the joints are not replacable, is this true?

 

SS:-\

 

Just did the 5 speed install and lengthened the drive line in my 84 Brat.

They installed new universals (with zirc's), spun balance etc... Price was about $230.

I am pleased with the one piece as it was simple with no mods for the center support.

 

Another board member recommended I call the drive line specialist's in Portland because they got a great deal, which didn't happen for me as I got a similar bid + shipping= $250. Others got quotes for $160 at their local shops for just lengthening (new tube and 2 welds) but my local drive line people said my universals were too worn and wouldn't spin balance if used.

 

I know this didn't answer your question but I thought I would throw some prices out there for comparison.

The hatch can't use a two-peice due to the length.

 

But I prefer the two peice on everything but the hatchback. The joints can be replaced with serviceable units (for a toyota), and the two peice gives better clearance under lifted rigs. There are also tons and tons of them to be had in yards in the NW so there is little reason for me to spend the money on a one peice. It's got no advantages for me.

 

One peice units are fine also as long as you don't exceed 15 degrees on the u-joints (unlikely anyway).

 

GD

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Just did the 5 speed install and lengthened the drive line in my 84 Brat.

They installed new universals (with zirc's), spun balance etc... Price was about $230.

I am pleased with the one piece as it was simple with no mods for the center support.

 

Another board member recommended I call the drive line specialist's in Portland because they got a great deal, which didn't happen for me as I got a similar bid + shipping= $250. Others got quotes for $160 at their local shops for just lengthening (new tube and 2 welds) but my local drive line people said my universals were too worn and wouldn't spin balance if used.

 

I know this didn't answer your question but I thought I would throw some prices out there for comparison.

 

 

Yeah my quote is $204. its in the shop now

I'd go a 1 piece if your getting anything customed. Less angle on the joints.

 

If its just a straight 5sp conversion in an EA81 wagon, sedan or Brat then a two piece is cheap and easy to fit.

But the hatchbacks are slightly shorter car.

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