Knichol Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Today I pick up a complete rolling samurai frame. I will be placing the body of my wagon including motor and trans on the frame of the samurai. I haven't completed a frame swap/modification like this before so I am a bit excited! On that note, for those of you who know, if there are any tips or tricks that maybe helpful, or if you want to share your mistakes please, I am all ears! I will post pictures as updates as they happen. Thank you for those whom have already lent some assistance! (cough* cough*... SJR, bratsrus1, monstaru, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott in Bellingham Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Kenny we want a thread with pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knichol Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 Kenny we want a thread with pics You will get some, so long as you promise not to laugh at my sketchy system for lifting the body and rolling the frame in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Brastrus1 did a Sami frame swap on a Hatch. You may have to extend the frame, you wont know till you measure the wheelbase for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruguru Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 yea 13 inches i think is what he said hes really proud of it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtsmiths Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 But what about putting a Sammi body on a Subaru platform/running gear. I want a Subaru 'jeep' but they insist in not making one! Why not is beyond my ken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsoobdude Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Kenny we want a thread with pics X A LOT. This has been a dream of mine and a possible doin once I get my BRAT and everything else done. I already have the Wagon it's just a matter of time, $$$ and sense (short on that one). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subarutex Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Kenny, You are awesome. My dreams are in your hands. I can't wait to see your articulation. XOXO - Tex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knichol Posted August 25, 2008 Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 Well it's whatever a stock samurai is. The four link will come at a later point once all gets put together. Should handle a little nicer than a samurai because of the lengthened wheel base. The front as the funky mod where you set the front leafs back so that the forword end of the spring is monted to the axle. I will take that out and place it back to stock. Pics will be up tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratsrus1 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Hi This is Jerry, you need to come over to my place and see how i did my hatch brat. It is on a sammy frame, you can call me 1-509-952-2855 but you really should come and see it. That way you will say oh thats how you done that. Thanks Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knichol Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 Hi This is Jerry, you need to come over to my place and see how i did my hatch brat. It is on a sammy frame, you can call me 1-509-952-2855 but you really should come and see it. That way you will say oh thats how you done that. Thanks Jerry Thanks I am actually going to Yakima this weekend, so I will call you. When is the best time for you? Pefect thanks scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott in Bellingham Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Thanks I am actually going to Yakima this weekend, so I will call you. When is the best time for you? ok i seem not to be good enough at computers to post pictures... heres the link to my album http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/photos/showgallery.php?cat=1171 Kenny just pick on the picture , hit copy then go to your post and hit paste, thats how I do my pics, have 2 windows open makes it easier , did you get that frame from a guy out in Ferndale on th rez? lake terrel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knichol Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 no, this guy was on everson goshen near smith road. He may have gotten it from the guy your talking about, he got it for the motor and trans and was going to scrap the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott in Bellingham Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 when will this be ready to wheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knichol Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 I will shoot for end of sept it will be ready to drive around. If you want to help out I would cook ya dinner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subarutex Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 More importantly... is that Nova still a BEAST? Make me proud kenny, make me proud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooinater Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 um, definately not stock sami supension. they didn't come with rednecked 1/4 elliptical suspension. way more flex and fairly safe if they are setup correctly. otherwise they are a train wreck and a hazard. a few things to consider with that suspension setup, hopefully you are redoing that link system, extremely unsafe and redneckish. setup a triangulated 4 link or a regular 4 link to give you lateral stability and remove the hard mount to the axle and install a shackle with a heim joint connecting the spring to the axle. other things to ponder are a bumpstop along the spring to control upward travel and stabilize body sway on side hills, and a pulley winch system above the axle to prevent the 1/4 elip from unloading on a downhill and tumbling you @$$ over tea kettle all the way down a hill. without that you are in for a real pucker factor on the downhill side of a trail. at least use a short limiting strap from the center diff to a frame crossmember. the winch setup is fairly cheap, $60 harbor freight 3k winch some cable and a pulley. also with that much of an angle on your steering you'll get a lot of unwanted bump steer, you should look into a high steer setup or just go hydraulic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooinater Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 some ideas for setup... this guy doesn't have the center strap but it's a fairly well done setup with tractor links on the rear of a suzuki, this will also give you an idea of how much flex you can achieve, especially if you put that in the rear also here's the thread if you want to find fordzuki and ask some questions on his suspension, when i talked to him he said he did it fairly cheap with tractor links. http://www.nw-wheelers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24930 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knichol Posted September 3, 2008 Author Share Posted September 3, 2008 The front setup going back to stock. The way it is now is just plain scary. As it extends the entire axles shift to the right and then the oppisite happens on compression, not a big fan of how its done. I will be doing a 4 link system in the rear once I get it up and running but for now all stock to get her up and running . It is nice seeing pictures of how its supposed to be setup. I have some more sami questions if you have any knowledge about them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooinater Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 The front setup going back to stock. The way it is now is just plain scary. As it extends the entire axles shift to the right and then the oppisite happens on compression, not a big fan of how its done. I will be doing a 4 link system in the rear once I get it up and running but for now all stock to get her up and running . It is nice seeing pictures of how its supposed to be setup. I have some more sami questions if you have any knowledge about them? depends on what the questions are, i have a sami as my daily driver and know a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratsrus1 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Hey Kenny This is Jerry, i was home all weekend you didn't call me. You need to see my hatchbrat, give me a call 1-509-952-2855. Thanks Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knichol Posted September 4, 2008 Author Share Posted September 4, 2008 I know, sorry Jerry. We ended up not going overthere, instead had everyone come over here. We will get overthere and I will give you come lead time as to when. Most likely the 27th of Sept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knichol Posted September 4, 2008 Author Share Posted September 4, 2008 depends on what the questions are, i have a sami as my daily driver and know a bit. Ok, rear end assembly: The rearend that is in it was destroyed but came with all new parts just needed to be assembled. On the passenger side: After I got the axle out and inspecting the seal, I noticed a plastic ring. Looks kinda like a fender washer but has slotted holes around it and is located to the inside the axle housing just inside of the seal. Is it supposed to be there? Its in there loosely and can slide freely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooinater Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Ok, rear end assembly: The rearend that is in it was destroyed but came with all new parts just needed to be assembled. On the passenger side: After I got the axle out and inspecting the seal, I noticed a plastic ring. Looks kinda like a fender washer but has slotted holes around it and is located to the inside the axle housing just inside of the seal. Is it supposed to be there? Its in there loosely and can slide freely. haven't done the backend yet, that's next month or november then i'll be tearing that apart to replace the wheel bearings and seals. i would guess so, but the manuals aren't worth a crap for these vehicles unless you have the factory service manual. i have a link on my home computer that has the microfiche for the samurai. send me a pm and i'll check it this weekend when i get home. presently stranded in everett till payday on friday to replace the suzuki starter... it randomly died, and tapping the solenoid quit working... and it already has the clicky starter fix... lame, towing a trailer otherwise i'd just push start it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratsrus1 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Hi Kenny This is Jerry, that will be ok with me. Just give me a call. Thanks Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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