bobs97c5 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 My friend spent the weekend troubleshooting why his GL-10 wouldn't start up after replacing the timing belts, distributor cap, rotor, wires, etc. Since he didn't have a Haynes manual he looked for the firing order on-line. Needless to say, he spent hours messing the the timing after setting the firing order as shown on this site (1-3-4-2): http://autorepair.about.com/library/firing_orders/bl-subaru-firing-86.htm Once I brought him the Hanynes manual today and was talking about the firing order I knew instantly that's all he had wrong. He is a very mechanically inclined person and knows what he is doing, so I didn't question something as simple as the firing order when he had already checked that. The correct firing order as we all know is 1-3-2-4. Lesson learned, don't always blindly trust the internet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratman18 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Wonder if e-mailing the people who made the website would help. They should definitely correct it for others who stumble upon it while trying to fix their car! I tried to find a way to contact them and couldn't find any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92loyale Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Um, it's not just the internet. ALLDATA has it wrong too. I just had the same problem after putting my engine back in. Yup, would only kind of run, than back fire and well, nothing...So, yeah, don't trust everything you see. Always check for yourself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 even the FSM is wrong, case in point torque spec for 91-94 legacy crank pulley bolt, they show it incorrect, and there have been many issues due to it being wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch de la Brat Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 My parents have learned that lesson the hard way, "We won't sell your name..." Bull. That's why they get 300+ spam a day. And I have almost killed several things using internet advice. (Computer, car, cat...) Sometimes makes me wanna somebody. Twitch Holy crap! I just realized they all start with C! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torxxx Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 My friend spent the weekend troubleshooting why his GL-10 wouldn't start up after replacing the timing belts, distributor cap, rotor, wires, etc. Lesson learned, don't always blindly trust the internet! Ever heard of marking the plug wires before taking them off? Just an idea to throw out there. They make small numbered stickers that will stick to damn near anything or any toolbox should have a paint marker it it. Yeah its disgusting to see a reference source with the wrong information. But thats why everyones dads always told them "Mark everything before you take it apart" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subiemech85 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Ever heard of marking the plug wires before taking them off? Just an idea to throw out there. They make small numbered stickers that will stick to damn near anything or any toolbox should have a paint marker it it. Yeah its disgusting to see a reference source with the wrong information. But thats why everyones dads always told them "Mark everything before you take it apart" I come from the school of thought: tear everything apart, stick it all in one big box, small parts in a bag so they don't fall out of the cracks in the box, clean everything really well, and reassemble the 1,000 piece puzzle you just created I find it easier to memorize the firing order if you need help with keeping track, http://www.idealindustries.com/products/wire_management/wire_markers/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I find it easier to memorize the firing order Tattooed to my forearem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I was helping someone change a clutch and they had the firing order writen under the bonnet and had each spark plug marked too. Problem was, it was 1-2-3-4 and the spark plugs were marked 1 front right, 2 rear right, 3 front left, 4 rear left. So they had it right sort of.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abog Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Sounds like they were thinking of an air cooled volkswagen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR_Loyale Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Ever heard of marking the plug wires before taking them off? Just an idea to throw out there. They make small numbered stickers that will stick to damn near anything or any toolbox should have a paint marker it it. Yeah its disgusting to see a reference source with the wrong information. But thats why everyones dads always told them "Mark everything before you take it apart" That is the best advice for sure. I did that when I did my timing belt/clutch/water and oil pump job and pulled the engine. It all started right up when I got it all back together because I wrote down each step as I took something off. It definitely slows you down but makes up for it in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torxxx Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 hehe thats what they made the hood for.. take a sharpie and draw the firing order on the under side. and the spare tire shelf is to put all your nuts/bolts on in order of how you took them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyko Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I scratched the cylinder number each plug is connected to next to each plug on top of the distributor cap. The engine block has the cylinder numbers on it already, so worst case I forget which cylinder is which and have to clean the block a bit before playing connect the dots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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