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5spd into ea81 trouble! help! (pics and questions)
Posted 10 November 2003 - 11:14 PM
the tranny rubs, or is pressed against the tunnel at the linkage bolt and the doo-dad on the other side of the tranny from the linkage... (circled in red in the pic http://usmb.net/gall...o36/5spdrubbing
am I supposed to pound this part out? did anyone else do this? or have this problem? Matt- you probably should check this on your wagon too...
the clutch cable is not long enough to put thru the release fork, and put the lock nut on the end... i can barely get the lever nut on it (see pic)
people have told me that their cables are too long... why is mine different? is there a different length cable for ea81s? i have a ea81, with an ea81 clutch cable, and a ea82 5spd d/r, and an ea82T clutch set on a ea81 flywheel.
i can drive the car, but i dont want to drive it with the rubbing linkage and the lack of lock bolt on the cable... what should or could i do?
Posted 10 November 2003 - 11:41 PM
Posted 10 November 2003 - 11:49 PM
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Posted 11 November 2003 - 05:08 AM
Posted 11 November 2003 - 02:46 PM
Posted 11 November 2003 - 02:58 PM
the auto is a fat-rump roast, much heftier than the 5spd.
i cut up the tunnel for the 5spd in the trashwagon. i believe i showed it to matt, to give an idea of what cutting looks like.
tell 'em GD. the washers, the washers!
Posted 11 November 2003 - 03:14 PM
Posted 11 November 2003 - 03:16 PM
With the washers, I got close to a full 1" more space for the tranny to sit. I didn't do any pounding at all, and it was really easy to install. And all the shift linkages still worked fine. Sort of a mini body lift for the tranny. Also - you can adjust the pitching stopper back so there's not so much pressure on the tranny. That's how I did it - drove the car like 300 miles that way with no problems.
Posted 11 November 2003 - 03:18 PM
Posted 11 November 2003 - 10:34 PM
and the ea82 clutch cables dont fit the ea81 due to the mounting style at the pedal side of the cable... or do they?
Posted 11 November 2003 - 10:45 PM
Posted 11 November 2003 - 11:15 PM
Posted 11 November 2003 - 11:38 PM
the problem- the clutch cable I selected to use, which worked fine on my ea81 4 spd D/R, is not long enough to use with the ea82 D/R tranny and clutch set that I have in my car.
if people are saying that cables in ea82s are different lengths, then can someone with a ea82 turbo (FT4wd) take a measuement and then compare it to an N/A ea82 4wd D/R clutch cable (just measure the ends where they go into the shift fork) and see if they are in fact a different size...
(Tex, dont you have a set of N/A and Turbo ea82s?? )
so, Jerry, please dont give up the work you do- it seems to work fine for the cars it was meant for, I think I am having rubbing trouble (and matt too) because we put them in a car that was not the same measurments as the cars you built them for (aka the 84 and 86 brats)
I did look at the 80 wagon's tunnel, and compared it to the 86 brat's tunnel and they are different- the 80's is skinnier, so I just forgot to pound it out!...
anyways thanks for the info so far!
( I will try the spacer idea)
Posted 12 November 2003 - 12:50 AM
Posted 12 November 2003 - 12:51 AM
Posted 12 November 2003 - 01:08 AM
we tried to install the kit into a 80 GL-1600 (smaller tunnel) and Matt's AT 83GL-T wagon (well, it was a AT!)
I think the best thing that could be done to solve this situation, is to research the differences with the trannys, clutches, cables and all parts that could be used and make a set of instructions that explain which parts can and cant be used with eachother...
does anyone know about the thicknesses of the turbo clutch and pressure plate VRS a N/A pressure plate? maybe it is thicker, causing the fork arm to me moved farther away from the cable?
Posted 12 November 2003 - 01:32 AM
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Posted 13 November 2003 - 12:02 AM
Jerry's product is just as advertised. It was and is designed for upgrades from EA81 4sp D/R to EA82 5 sp D/R transmissions. Anything else is beyond the design and should be the responsibilty of the end user.
Modifying automobiles can and will be a difficult process. Most people can not do it on their own. That is why it is important for our community to have people like Jerry, John, Scott, Adam and other. And yes, even Miles. We don't always believe some of the antics but he does have alot of creativity that aids many people.
It is not always easy to modify somethng that cost millions of dollars to design and engineer to become something else. It's not for everyone and everyone should not try it.
Posted 13 November 2003 - 12:05 AM
Posted 13 November 2003 - 12:58 AM
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