jonas Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 (edited) Been beating on this thing for two weekends now. I've had it, going to drill the damn thing out. Edited May 22, 2011 by jonas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoyale Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Thats a bugger, I almost got one stuck in my EJ axle last summer (Didn't have the holes lined up) and I broke the end of it off with I was able to tap out. Hope all goes well with this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pksjeep Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 The pin is made from spring steel and may be as hard as the drill bit. If you decide to drill it be careful so you don't break the bit in side of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 You can't drill that with normal bits - you would need carbide to cut a spring steel pin. You are better off just cutting the material away on the joint cup to allow the pin enough movement to be pulled free. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 Funny thing is i can rotate the pin. Totally mushroomed my punch, tried removing from both ends, tried both pulling and pushing this thing out. it gets to the pictured point and stops dead. whatever, i will win, Buhwahahahah!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 At some point, I would say grind the end off, and try using a punch to punch it back in the other direction and remove on the other end. have you used good vice grips and a slide hammer to them? I think maybe it was installed 180 off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 At some point, I would say grind the end off, and try using a punch to punch it back in the other direction and remove on the other end. have you used good vice grips and a slide hammer to them? I think maybe it was installed 180 off. yes on the grips and hammer. the 180 off did cross my mind but it should still come out i would think..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 are you using a roll pin punch, or a regular tapered punch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 (edited) I know you have to ask the obvious, it is a non tapered pin punch. Thats why this really has me scratching my head. not the brightest bulb but i don't think i'm dumb, i can usually figure things out, and i've done this before and never ran into this prob. I'll get it. Edited May 16, 2011 by jonas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 can you turn that axle 90degrees counterclockwise, and show the pic looking down into the hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ettev Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I've done a few of these that just don't seem to line up. I swear they drill the holes off a half tooth on some. For those I grind the roll pin down a bit and only tap it in about half way. I coat them with high temp grease too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 What size punch are you using. If it's too skinnym it will go inside thepin and jam it up. try to feel for an edge and hit on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 can you turn that axle 90degrees counterclockwise, and show the pic looking down into the hole Not atm, celebrating wifes bday. BUT a very good idea. i was using my super brite flashlight to look down the hole but couldn't see anything. now i'm thinking a few close ups w/flash may show what my eye couldn't see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 I've done a few of these that just don't seem to line up. I swear they drill the holes off a half tooth on some. For those I grind the roll pin down a bit and only tap it in about half way. I coat them with high temp grease too. yeah, i'm wondering if it's off just a bit causing my punch hang up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 What size punch are you using. If it's too skinnym it will go inside thepin and jam it up. try to feel for an edge and hit on that 3/16. tried one smaller but it seemed to be splaying the pin with out moving it. I'm hoping i've just managed to mushroom the ends just enough to jam it up. gonna try to grind the ends narrower. But i can rotate so ...... Would it make a diff that it's a 5 sp swap on a '85 brat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I've done a few of these that just don't seem to line up. I swear they drill the holes off a half tooth on some. For those I grind the roll pin down a bit and only tap it in about half way. I coat them with high temp grease too. then you need to pull off axle and rotate 180...... yes it is possible to still drive the pin in, but if you pull off axle and rotate 180 it will line up perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbrat84 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 ouch! i know how you feel man. i did the same stupid mistake. the axle wouldn't quit get on so i got the biggest sledge hammer i could find and hammered the spindle onto the axle and discovered my mistake and just F*** it and you can't drill em out. so i just put it back together and called it good. that sucker aint comin out if i want a a new axle i will have to get a new spindle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 YAY, GOT IT OUT! Looks like it is off a tooth. Looking down the hole i can see an edge, bet my punch was getting hung up on it. You guys got me thinking about that so instead of sending the punch right down the middle, on advice from Miles, i tried hugging the sides. That pin is not very pretty looking. Figure that's why i could rotate it in the shaft but not pull it out, the end was mushroomed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idasho Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 It isnt off a tooth. If it is close, but not quite 100%, then it is 180-out. been there, done that. And damn glad I tried putting the pins in before getting the trans back in and everything bolted back together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberoo Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 I put my 3/16 pin punch in the hole when I reinstall an axle before I tap in the pin.If the pin punch wont easily go in all the way then its off by a tooth or 180* off. Now I only have trouble with pins in cars in junkyard with the original axles.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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