YnotDIY Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Hey everyone - Does anyone know of a bolt on option for a class 3 hitch that will fit a 98 Legacy Outback? I've been searching and all that comes up is Class 2 (I know they came from the factory with a class 2, but I need a class 3). Any help would be appreciated. Thinking maybe I should search for other models from newer years as I know some of the more recent 2000's subarus come with class 3 hitches. If anyone knows of one or where I might move my search to that would be helpful. cheers, TJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan909 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Without actually looking at the numbers, my suspicion would be that that platform wouldn't have the vehicle weight, suspension, or power to support that extra load, making it unlikely that anyone would have built a hitch for it. What's your problem with the class 2? Just the receiver size, or the capacity? Because we've gone on many family (of four) trips with our '99 OBW with a full load of camping+sailing gear, and towing a boat (less than a 1000 lbs.), and there is no power to spare. It's fantasy to think that it'll work with ten times that towing load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) Nope. AFAIK, Class 2s weren't available until at least 2005 (I know you could get 2" receivers for those, but I'm not sure if they were actually rated any higher). I agree, though. Class 2 is good for 3500 lbs. Shouldn't be towing any more than that. Edited September 9, 2021 by Numbchux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Don't do that. Get a truck. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YnotDIY Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 @jonathan909 @Numbchux @GeneralDisorder I appreciate the responses, I'm looking to put a motorcycle carrier on the back. A class 2 hitch is rated @ 300lbs TW and the motorcycle is around 250lbs wet. It's small and I believe the surbaru can handle the weight. The suspension will be fine as it's modified to handle the extra load in the back. However most motorcycle carriers come with a 2" receiver. I'm of course also worried about that 300lbs. TW with a class 2 hitch as the force of bouncing around on the highway or back roads will exceed that 300lbs TW limit. It's just me a dog and the motorcycle so the subaru can handle the load, my current hitch however has to go. No chance a later model class 3, say for a forester or crosstrek will bolt up? I'm not opposed to fabricating one if I have to, but of course would like an easier route if possible. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan909 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) Sure - in that case (just to up the tongue weight) what you're trying to do isn't at all unreasonable. Edited September 9, 2021 by jonathan909 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Just buy whatever hitch and cut/weld in the receiver tubing size you need for the carrier. You might need heavier rear springs if you also have any gear but KING springs makes some. GD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 IIRC, there aren't very good mounts back there for the hitch. I think I would fabricate one with more pick up points for carrying that weight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YnotDIY Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 Heard on all of this. I'll post some images if I end up going this route! I'm also looking at getting a Nissan Hardbody possibly, but it would mean selling the subaru.... :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, YnotDIY said: Heard on all of this. I'll post some images if I end up going this route! I'm also looking at getting a Nissan Hardbody possibly, but it would mean selling the subaru.... :/ Nissan's are a pain in the neck. If you get anything get a square body GM or a Toyota..... Or one of these (my preference): GD Edited September 11, 2021 by GeneralDisorder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 GD that would look good sitting in the shop Parking lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 hours ago, lmdew said: GD that would look good sitting in the shop Parking lot. October 5th or 6th. Depending on how many days the drive from Houston back to Portland takes me.... GD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 You are welcome to stop in Colorado Springs, CO. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 hours ago, lmdew said: You are welcome to stop in Colorado Springs, CO. Larry One possible route does take us right through it actually. I'm still doing research on which route I want to take. The truck, as delivered to the government, has a top speed of about 50 to 55 so I'm taking that into account. It's also tall at about 11.5' GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 9/11/2021 at 7:12 PM, GeneralDisorder said: October 5th or 6th. Depending on how many days the drive from Houston back to Portland takes me.... GD seriously? I'm gonna keep this in mind - we could maybe 'convoy' from DFW to CoSpgs. at Present, I plan to overnight in Amarillo.......just don't have a firm timeframe yet. hmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, 1 Lucky Texan said: seriously? I'm gonna keep this in mind - we could maybe 'convoy' from DFW to CoSpgs. at Present, I plan to overnight in Amarillo.......just don't have a firm timeframe yet. hmmmmm Yep. Arrive in Houston on Oct 1. But remember - truck only goes 55 top speed. Effective final drive ratio is around 7:1 GD Edited September 13, 2021 by GeneralDisorder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThosL Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 I always had Uhaul do my hitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 19 hours ago, GeneralDisorder said: Yep. Arrive in Houston on Oct 1. But remember - truck only goes 55 top speed. Effective final drive ratio is around 7:1 GD Planning to sleep in the back or moteling it....? Just the trip from DFW to Amarillo will likely go from around 5 hours to 7 or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 hours ago, 1 Lucky Texan said: Planning to sleep in the back or moteling it....? Just the trip from DFW to Amarillo will likely go from around 5 hours to 7 or so. Well..... Looks like we are headed to Tuscon Arizona and up through Nevada and Vegas this trip not up to Colorado. Not sure where you're headed but you're welcome to tag along at our slow speed if any part of the route brings us together. GD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YnotDIY Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) On 9/11/2021 at 2:42 PM, GeneralDisorder said: Nissan's are a pain in the neck. If you get anything get a square body GM or a Toyota..... Or one of these (my preference): GD Man, I'd never be able to afford anything for that haha, but they are so so cool. Some new news about trying to tow with the subaru. I Just read a few places that the actual unibody frame rating is around 200LBS for TW for my year. Does that make any sense to ya'll?? It sounds like the frame is constructed in such a way that it's bolted together and in running more than 200lbs on the back of the car it's likely the frame of the car will actually bend where it's joined together. Can anyone lend any wisdom on this?? Does upgraded suspension help at all? I'm running king springs all around with G-cel struts. Also have a 4" ADF lift kit I have no idea how these frames are built or TW rating for the frame of the car. If this is the case it looks like I might be out of the Subaru game for a bit. Edited September 14, 2021 by YnotDIY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 sorry for the thread hijack TnotDIY only thing I have run across in the past, some Subaru models sold in other markets have higher tow limits than the same model sold in the USA. Maybe due to generally lower speed limits overseas or some 'nanny g'mint' safety ruling in this country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 13 hours ago, GeneralDisorder said: Well..... Looks like we are headed to Tuscon Arizona and up through Nevada and Vegas this trip not up to Colorado. Not sure where you're headed but you're welcome to tag along at our slow speed if any part of the route brings us together. GD Be aware, a large vehicle in S TX is likely to get pulled over by BP/ICE. Just be cool about it. Not sure in NM or AZ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 hours ago, 1 Lucky Texan said: Be aware, a large vehicle in S TX is likely to get pulled over by BP/ICE. Just be cool about it. Not sure in NM or AZ..... Oh wow - didn't even think of that! I'll have to ask my guy in TX about that - he has a military museum down there. I wouldn't think they would mess with a camo LMTV with Texas plates but maybe? It is supremely off-road capable so would be uniquely suited to border crossing in the middle of nowhere...... GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 4 hours ago, YnotDIY said: I Just read a few places that the actual unibody frame rating is around 200LBS for TW for my year. Does that make any sense to ya'll?? It sounds like the frame is constructed in such a way that it's bolted together and in running more than 200lbs on the back of the car it's likely the frame of the car will actually bend where it's joined together. Can anyone lend any wisdom on this?? I have no idea how these frames are built or TW rating for the frame of the car. That's just it - there is no frame. The unibody is made from folded sheet metal that's slightly stiffer than wet tissue paper. Suspension has no bearing on what will begin to tear the bolts out of the wet tissue paper that is your "frame/body" GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Yep, no frame. Unibody means the entire sheet metal body of the car provides the structure. Which is exactly my concern, the commercially-available hitches only attach in a couple spots, and I bet those bolts would just tear through the sheet metal with that kind of weight on it. Which is why I said I would build my own hitch with more pickup points. Some brackets that tie into the bumper mounts, maybe something forward to catch some rear suspension points. Etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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