samo Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 The third pipe in the middle shows how full the can is. It's totally unnecessary, but it looks kinda neat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexb1 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 and what about the inside of the condensator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Mine is just filled up with coarse steel wool to catch the vapors. Soon enough, hopefully, I'll have the time to redesign it slightly to help direct the vapors through the filter media more. Although the catch can is indeed catching a lot of the oil vapor, I've noticed a bit in the exit tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstSubaruGLwagon Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I've heard that real Aussies don't drink Fosters and always wondered what else you did with it. Now I know and it looks great, but I hope you didn't waste the beer anyway. LOL The only bad beer is wasted beer!! Ok, so where does it go? I was just thinking how hard it would be for me not to pull the tab on the can...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habib99 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Are these 'codensators' the same things as 'oil catch tanks'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 I was just thinking how hard it would be for me not to pull the tab on the can...... It's tempting. And yes, it's the same thing as a catch can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstSubaruGLwagon Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Yes, you can just put in a large fuel filter, however, I believe it makes a differance how much volume the cooling area has, i.e. the more area you have for cooling, the more the heavy stuff like oil and water will have a chance to collect on the filter media and fall to the bottom. In theory, the vaporized fuel/air should not be stopped by the filter much, and will continue on. With my set-up, to clean it (recommened at every oil change) you simply open the tea brewer and dump it out. I have been using regular steel wool, so I might have to replace that too each cleaning (it will rust). the thing about using a fuel filter is,, once the filter material gets soaked with oil and sludge, vapors will not easily pass through. The filtering material must be corse enough to alow vapor to pass even when coated with oil. just something to think about (deeper is better) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstSubaruGLwagon Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 woundering,,,,, would an A/C dryer work????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markman34 Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Well my peanut butter jar is at about 1000 km now and I think I'll be keeping it in there! I have not noticed any fluids or crud in the collector but the car does run better. Around town I can feel the difference but I'm eager to take the car on a long road trip. (this would give a better indication on fuel economy too) Also, it makes a great conversation piece when the hood is up. That and the spare tire. Everyone just loves it. Including me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decorrupter Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Quick thought from my GM experiences, the Quad-4 Engines, i think from 95 and up didnt have a PCV valve at all, they used a device called an Air/Oil seperator in its stead. Haynes Manuals for Cavaliers/Malibus/Berettas should go over them. Maybe its a retro/prefab option for you guys! -dC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyB0y Posted July 9, 2005 Author Share Posted July 9, 2005 Just an up-date on the use of the "condensator" that I installed on my boss's '91 Exploder: 2.5 MPG gained over a 4,000 mile trip and about 1 inch of oil collected in the bottom of the tea bottle ... *Note* This car doesn't burn any oil, so it's not just an old engine either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexb1 Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 no picturs of the inside?i'm stil confused about whear to put the steal wool, is it on the botom of the can or up the lid whear the in pipe conector is? on the real thing i have notised that both of the pipes conected at same level on the top, if so whear is the filtering takes place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyB0y Posted July 11, 2005 Author Share Posted July 11, 2005 no picturs of the inside?i'm stil confused about whear to put the steal wool, is it on the botom of the can or up the lid whear the in pipe conector is?on the real thing i have notised that both of the pipes conected at same level on the top, if so whear is the filtering takes place? Ok, in my version, the steel wool goes into the tea strainer basket that is on top, the reason that you can't vent out that same place is because it wouldn't have passed through the filter. The vent is just the highest place outside the filter, and if you look closely at condensators they have the vent outside the filter even though they are at the same hight. Hope that makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electryc_monk Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 okay folks what we need is to read what is written on the page: http://www.condensatorsales.com/html/adsorbant_separator.html then look at that mesh bag holding the silica beads. and then i googled this group of words" " and found this site: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=silica+gel+beads and the first site had quite specific data about how silica works better then steelwool ever could on its best day. http://www.ecompressedair.com/desiccant/silicagel.shtml the only data i'm looking to figure out soon is the chemical structure of the sillica that EB uses in his $179.00 units. that and the pretty stainlesssteele filter unit is quite snazzy looking too. However I must give prop's to the decission to use this: http://pacificcornetta-store.site.yahoo.net/teazteatum.html and for the next tidbit I went here: http://www.gracedavison.com/eusilica/Adsorbents/product/sylobead_beaded_silica_gel.htm ummm overkill, but okay. and on the last two links (they are .PDF's) for documentation on the spec's of some variations of the silica beads..... good stuf maynerd! I think I'll email 'um and see what cool info i'll learn from them beyond the FAQ etal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Johnson Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Those silica beads are the same thing you find in jerky bags and shipping bags. Check this out 200 Packets Of SILICA GEL DESSICANT - CAMERA DRYING NEW . BAM Filter time. Better yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave valiant Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 When I saw the picture of the silica beads I realised they are the same thing as air dryer beads.Should be very cheap and easy to get ahold of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electryc_monk Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Those silica beads are the same thing you find in jerky bags and shipping bags. Check this out 200 Packets Of SILICA GEL DESSICANT - CAMERA DRYING NEW . BAM Filter time. Better yet (slaps forehead) Dang is there nothing hidden from ebay's offering cup? so here we have a desire to take the factory "filtercan" and its four hoses (for those with an EA82 (right?) and make a PB, a Fosters, Molsen babby keg, or what-have-you with a stainlesssteel bag for the silica beads to filter and a slick retrun line setup for the return hose..... sounds like a winner now if I could just get a few other things finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstSubaruGLwagon Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 I saw a AC dryer on ebay for 10 bucks,,, and it seems to me that that would work fine considering that is what it was designed for, to remove the oil and water vapor:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handtool Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 My PCV system need some reworking so I thought I would give one of these condensators a shot. Coffee mug Silica gel "filter" Filter holder Grunge after 250 miles Detachable for easy clean out. Only have about 250 miles on it so far. It has seemed to fix the smoking on long right handers tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indrid cold Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 ( *Rubbing my eyes) A Stainless Steel travel Coffee mug?..... that is a classic! YOU WIN.... that is better then the can-O-Beer. Can't wait till I get Brat going so I can put one on.... I hate to be a copy cat but... MEOW.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstSubaruGLwagon Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Those silica beads are the same thing you find in jerky bags and shipping bags. Check this out 200 Packets Of SILICA GEL DESSICANT - CAMERA DRYING NEW . BAM Filter time. Better yet I used to be a parts manager for a company that sold and serviced Copiers. and those copier boxes always came with massive bags of silica. So if you have a Copier service and sales center in your town, ( like, Coeco, Danka, Konica, Minolta, pitny bowes, Canon, ect.) just go behind the building and look where they throw out the cardboard boxes and in the trash dumpsters, you will find the silica beads. OR Just go by and ask the Parts manager, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSight Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 so on an carbed 87 subaru GL what hose would you cut and put the catch can in between? anyone with pictures? anymore detailed pitures of their setups (like the excelent breakdown pics of the coffe mug) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waimaks Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 Yea so on an 81 Brat, they would be the two rocker cover vents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSight Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrik Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 A very interesting story you initiated..... A similar , but much simpler device was build in Lada's in the sixties. Just steelwool in the rubber hose from crankcase to carburator , to be regulary cleaned at oil change interval. Just amazing that Subaru did not build in already such a "condensator" device it is normally a sophisticated car. A question to everybody involved in this great idea : For my Subaru (1986 MPFI , turbo , Wagon , 110.000 Km) , each cilinder has it own crankcase outlet , they are both outputs and no one input and one output as eg. is explained in the Haynes manual un page 1-27. In that case the passenger side would have been clean and the driver side full of dirty oil. Yesterday I dismounted the hoses , both are full of dirt. There are many more hoses and connections , directly after the MAF in the big rubber air intake boot and elsewhere. SOMEBODY know where I have to apply such a condensator ? Any input is welcome............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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