idosubaru Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 gary - way to dig out a thread thats been discussed hundreds of times. lol I through we buried this along time ago shame on me to ruin this thread with an actual picture, what a waste! guess i missed it, but i didn't see a picture in the thread nor a need to start another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoyale Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 Hahaha! I remember this thread. Man was I young then, I sounded like a ignorant dork. I'm so happy all you guys have change me since then Gary, awesome! Finaly a picture of the insides. Need to show this to my dad, maybe he'll stop using Fram. WIX or Genuine for me -Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Man was I young then, I sounded like a ignorant dorkyeah, life is great. how it goes for me...i thought that when i was 20...then again when i was 23...then again when i was 25...then again...i think you see the pattern here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebugs Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoyale Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 yeah, life is great. how it goes for me...i thought that when i was 20...then again when i was 23...then again when i was 25...then again...i think you see the pattern here! Lol, I'm trying to stay away from that pattern. -Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperchargedRS Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 K&N filter with a safety wire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niku-Sama Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 i've had a problem with wix filters out of any thing amazingly. wix filters seem to suck down and try to become a rock hard permanent part of my oil pump that wont come off having worked at a lube shop i can honestly say, it depends on the filter number when it comes to frams, some are carboard ended and others are metal ended. it could be a lot number thing too because i have seen em with higher quality parts in them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 wix filters seem to suck down and try to become a rock hard permanent part of my oil pump that wont come off You are installing them too tight. Remove the seal from the filter, coat it completely in oil (or better yet - Dow Corning valve sealant), and install hand tight but don't monkey fist it. You don't need a lot of crush on the gasket to seal properly - it's soft rubber and will be replaced long before it begins to shrink. Some of the guys I worked with wouldn't listen and we would need a chain wrench and a 4 foot cheater to get them off. The reality is they are being put on too tight. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 You are installing them too tight. that's what i would think too. i typically remove mine by hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I install them and remove them by hand. always check to make sure the o-ring is on the old filter after removal (dont want it stuck on the pump when installing the new filter), and always smear a finger of oil on the new oring all around it. Keeps it from sticking to the oil pump surface for next oil change.. the pictures on the prev page show why FRAM is GARBAGE. Pictures tell the truth, anyone can argue otherwise, but i see it in the pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudduck Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I have cut apart a few fram filters, and I won't put them on anything. I usually run purolater filters, much better quality, and cheaper than the frams. Microgaurd, whick is O'rielys house brand, is actually purolater filters, just painted black instead of white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyman03 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 What's wrong with Fram oil filters? I've had 3 and never had a problem with the treads on it! So..... as you can tell after 9 or so pages.. Fram=Crap. & almost anything else is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoyale Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 So..... as you can tell after 9 or so pages.. Fram=Crap. & almost anything else is better. A little late to dig this post up huh? LOL. I'm sorry I sounded like a little boy back then -Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niku-Sama Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 You are installing them too tight. Remove the seal from the filter, coat it completely in oil (or better yet - Dow Corning valve sealant), and install hand tight but don't monkey fist it. You don't need a lot of crush on the gasket to seal properly - it's soft rubber and will be replaced long before it begins to shrink. Some of the guys I worked with wouldn't listen and we would need a chain wrench and a 4 foot cheater to get them off. The reality is they are being put on too tight. GD hand tight? too tight, lubed gasket before installing. its basicly spun on till it meets up and tightened up by hand by about an 8th of a turn. wix are the only ones that do this, the ************ rump roast wally world filter that i got as a spare with a car didnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I've installed tons of WIX/NAPA filters on EA81's, EA82's, and EJ22's. Never had an issue unscrewing them by hand. I don't know what would be any different about your car. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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