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#1 SuperRallyRoo

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 04:58 PM

Ok now what do I do? They say my idle is way to high, its at 1400rpm! Its a ea81t and I have no idea how to adjust the idle? Any clues? I'm in a rut here... I was hoping to pass today, I can go back tomorrow and try it again. This really sucks.:mad: AND the car blew a cv joint. And it was reman cv joint.:eek:

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 05:08 PM

Waiting for response...:wave:

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 05:19 PM

Gee Matt, I'm sorry that people aren't sitting by their computers waiting to answer your questions. You may want to give it more then 10 minutes.

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 05:26 PM

Thats not what I meant. Thanks for the sarcastic comment though.:brolleye:

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 05:30 PM

Hey Matt, theres usallaly an idle adjustment on the throttle linkage attaching to the carbrator, or in your case, I believe the fuel injector air flow controller... where ever the throttle cable hooks up there should be an adjustment, someware near that area, hope this helps:-)

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 05:53 PM

You should not have failed emissions for a high idle. If the idle is too high they are supposed to cut you out of line, have you fix the idle and re-test at no charge since they couldn't actually test for emissions.

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 06:13 PM

Well I guess I didn't fail then, cause they gave me my money back. But there seems to be no idle screw anywhere. And The one idle looking screw i tried to turn wouldn't budge.

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 06:17 PM

k, well then try this
goto the throttle cable where it hooks to the linkage.. theres a cable adjustment.. loosen that up a lil bit and see if your rpms drop a few at idle... my car idle'd high and I turned out the idle screw a lil bit and nothing happened.. I loosened the throttle cable a lil bit and that dropped me down to my 700 RPM idle.

BTW all you have to do is get it down to 1000 RPMS I think.. I just checked my IM sheet and mine was idleing at 1056 when I took my IM test.

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 06:28 PM

It needs to be under 1100 for washington.. if EA81T is anything like EA82T, there is probably a screw in the back of the TB that adjusts the idle

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 07:03 PM

the gold colored tin above the bellhousing in front of the firewall. open it up and adjust the length of the throttle cable.

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 08:02 PM

Well i figured out how to adjust it and took it in. And I failed horribly!:boohoo: I dunno what i'm gonna do now. This car is a pos! Everything is going wrong lol, I'll just have to dump more $$$ into it. Its really fun to drive I just wish it ran good.:-\

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 08:09 PM

Matt you can always drop the car and the title off at my house!

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 08:21 PM

my car failed horribly, then i got it good and hot and went back, passed with flying colors, get it good and hot and burn out that stuff thats been sitting in it for the las few months, get some new fuel and try again.

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 08:34 PM

I did all of that, I drove it hard fast on the freeway, went to texaco and got premium gas, I was on that turbo the whole way back! And went to emissions, and failed sooo bad.

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 08:37 PM

I'm thinkin it might be better to just put a carbed motor in it and lift it. Cause I do want an off road wagon. :eh:

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 08:41 PM

My brat Failed horrabliey too 2yrs ago i had to get a wavier even after tons of money on tune ups carb ajustments oil chages and a hole lot of stuff and it still failed every freakin time.;

I got this stuff called Gaurantee 2 Pass or G2P or (you money back) follow the direction on the box

Mine passed with flying colors

You can find G2P at checkers or autozone or like stores I tell you this stuff realy works I talked to several people and they all either used it them self or know of some one that did

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 08:43 PM

My brat Failed horrabliey too 2yrs ago i had to get a wavier after even ater tons of money on tune ups carb ajustments oil chages and it still failed every freakin time (his **** realy works) whats (his **** realy works) mean? whos is he?:cornfuzz:

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 08:45 PM

Like, how bad? Gimmee some numbers.

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 08:46 PM

Matt, i seriously think that if you want to off road, get a factory carbd car. Putting a carbd engine in a turbo is sacralige!!! you just cant do it!!! If you do decide to lose the turbo engine ill buy it off you plus all the wiring and stuff.

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 08:50 PM

Uuh Galen ur not gettin my car for free, it wouldn't be sacrilegious, cause it runs like **** and its impossible to find parts for ea81t's! Here is a link to the #'s
see I have bad luck today! this was my 666th post! talk about sacrilegious!

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 08:58 PM

There's no limit on NOx? Sweet! Ok. Change your oil. Put a new air filter on it. Crank the timing up 5-6 degrees. Or more. Stop before it pings, well a little is ok for our puposes. Is the gas tank about a quarter full? Pour about 8 bottles of DRYGAS in there.

Changing oil removes fuel contaminated oil that the PCV is huffing.
Clean air filter= more air.
Timing increase gets fuel burning earlier so HC and CO go down.
Alcohol removes HC from equation, also lowering CO numbers.
Sorry, premium wasn't a good choice. It is slower burning, so HC and CO can go up.

Sorry for the choppy english. I get excited when I think about fooling "The Man".

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 09:07 PM

Matt, I was being serious. If you want to offroad, i would say get a carbd car for cheap, because the amount of work you would have to do to get all the turbo plumbing and wiring out and getting the carbd motor in. I might be willing to buy the wagon off you for the right price or if you just pull the engine ill buy that off you too!

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 09:08 PM

how well do you know your books?
start with making sure things like ignition timing are spot-on, and that all of your sensors are working first. i remember how you said it ran like crap, but now it runs like a scalded dog. sounds like you're making progress. but maybe a few more bugs can be worked out of it. do some research on the basics of automotive workings.

too bad there are emissions. they dont have them around here. i know that my car my car with its floppy carb and 35oo idle wouldn to pass.

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 10:35 PM

Stop crying Matt. The car you have is MINT! Its one of the only running EA81T's ive heard of. Washington emissions cannot be THAT bad. Hell, if Eric can get a EA81 with a 32/36 weber to pass smog, im sure you (or someone who actually knows how to work on a subaru) can get it to pass.

Here are a few ideas:
Make sure your idle is within spec's
Make sure your timing is within spec's
Make sure ALL of your exhaust is 100%! The turbo might have a cat before turbo, and one after the turbo. Make sure they are good and not clogged.

Also, drive the car for an hour or so, get the catalytic converters good and hot before it is tested.... they work better the hotter they are.

And stop whining! If you dont like the car, sell it. If you want a carb'd wagon to lift... buy one. Don't ruin a perfect EA81T Wagon.

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Posted 17 November 2003 - 10:50 PM

OK OK OK, Matt, look at the back side of the trottle body, there should be a screw in the casing going straight down into the engine, that is the idle adjustment.

Sorry I didn't tell you earlier, but I had to go out and wrk on my car. Man I can't believe all the mis-information you got.

I believe the idle is 850 rpms, but I can remember the degree setting.




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