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Downshifting into 3RD...

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Yeah, its not working anymore...

 

I can shift from 2nd to 3rd relativly easy, but if im downshifting from 4th to 3rd, sometimes it wont grab and the tranny will slip out of gear, which usually ends up grinding until i can grab the shifter and slam it back into 3rd again. Is this pre-mature tranny meltdown? The car is a slug in 4th gear, been thinking of doing something about it. Not sure if I wanna do the whole 5spd deal, but I would like to get 3rd gear back.

 

-Brian

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Oh yeah, and for those that dont know... its on the '84 Lifted Wagon, EA81 4spd Dual Range 4WD.

 

-Brian

Brian,

how much clearance do you have between the shifter and the radio? in my Dad's wagon, if you shift lightly into 3rd, it'll instantly pop back out, but if you shift sold and hold it in third until your foot is totally off the pedal, it stays.... he's put 40k on it that way so far.....

what i had to do when that started to happen with mine is shift from 4th down to 2nd then back up to 3rd that and around that i couldn't shift into 1st with out coming to a complete stop which sucked

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Thats the problem Mick, i dont have any room at all between 3rd and my radio. Since the radio isnt stock, it sticks out more. I could shift hard into 3rd anytime I'd like, and ensure its stays in gear, but i'd have to buy a box of bandaids for my knuckles.

 

-Brian

I see 2 possibilties. First, its not making it all the way into gear beacause of the radio. Fix : bend the shifter a little to provide more clearance. Second.. synchros in 3rd are going kaput.. Fix: D/R 5 speed.

You could fix the slop in the shifter and at the same time incorporate the short shifter fabrication I sent you three months ago for the USRM

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Yeah, something I need to do. The shifter doesnt need to be any shorter. With the 3" lift, the shifter is already 3" shorter.

 

-Brian

Sorry for not being specific.

The fabrication I sent you, does not "shorten the shifter"

It shortens the throw of the shifter.

i.e. how far the shifter moves between shifts

Which in this case, may help

BTW

My Brat had the same problem

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Yes, shorter throw would be alot better. Guess i better dig through the old email and find that :)

 

-Brian

Brian

 

Looks like we're headed for a "Double Tranny Swap Wrench Fest", eh?

I agree with the shorter stick shift.

I was looking at it on my EA82 and I think one could cut 3 inches off the stick and then rethread the stick

the EA81 4spd Transmission is know for having a bad 3-4 gear shift fork. But yours just might be the snychros. Either way, sounds like might be time for a conversion.

 

Richie

Way back when my 83 wagon did that too. I started just not using 3rd, sucked on hills, though. If you need a D/R 4 speed, let me know. I may be able to bring one out west for you in a few weeks.

 

Chris

I need to do mine, too. I want to put the earlier one I have in there, with the lower 3rd/4th

 

let me know if we could get together and do these.

 

I'd rather find a 5speed, but I do have this trans sitting here.

 

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