bigo1966 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Im guessing my problem is my CV angle? Looks like I need limiting straps or softer springs. What do you think? O 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Drop the rear diff down some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigo1966 Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) i forgot i could do that. What do you think, 2? More? Edited January 12, 2011 by bigo1966 spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 2" would probably be pretty good, just from an eyeball. Any idea how much of a difference in ride height you have compared to stock? The rear axles can safely take about 3" of extra height. On my first trip out with my old wagon, I had 5" extensions on the struts, and 1" blocks on the diff. I broke 2 axles in as many days (really....only half days before I wound up driving back to camp in FWD to replace an axle). Also, you may consider seeing if you can get your hands on a pair of rear axles from an '85-'86 Ea82. they have DOJ joints on both ends of the axles, instead of one DOJ and one CVJ, which means they can telescope from both ends and get a bit longer. While a DOJ can't take as much angle, it seems the biggest problem with a lifted EA82 breaking rear axles is the one DOJ get's hyperextended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstaru Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 i say drop it about 4 inches.you will still have about 11 inches of clearance or so....... i knew you couldna stay away from tube:drunk:cheers, b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott in Bellingham Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Im guessing my problem is my CV angle? Looks like I need limiting straps or softer springs. What do you think? O cool rig, I would go 1" over stock, so if you dropped the wheel 6" mount the diff at 5" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezapar Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 There's no reason to make the rear diff any higher than y-pipe clearance, seeing as the y-pipe has to go first down the trail and the rear diff is only following. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 There's no reason to make the rear diff any higher than y-pipe clearance, seeing as the y-pipe has to go first down the trail and the rear diff is only following. have a look at the video again.....he's got a slightly different configuration up there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I concur on the EA82 double-DOJ axles - I think that could go a long way to solving your problem. I have about 4" of suspension and 1" of body lift in the rear of my EA81 wagon and I also use EA82 DOJ's (deeper by about 1/2" each) and I haven't broken a rear axle in a while now. I'm also welded so it puts a lot of stress on them and EA81's are narrower so 4" for me is more than 4" for an EA82 (talking axle angles) since the width helps on the EA82's. I had thought about using limiting straps as well since it seems that they most commonly break when the wheel is off the ground and the tire is spinning. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigo1966 Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Double DOJ vs CV/DOJ. The above info is great. This really helps. I beat the hell out of the buggyroo it also had longer travel rear setup with air shocks and I never had a problem. After a quick review of pics the buggyroo it had double DOJ's. IS it possible to swap a DOJ with a CV? I have 4 DOJ/CV's so could I possibly make a set of double DOJ's? Thanks again, this really helps. It as a 4" lift, 5" front strut spacers, and my homemade rear coilovers. So really I have no idea how much over stock the rear suspension is, at least 3" would guess. Edited January 13, 2011 by bigo1966 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 You could punch one of the CV's off and see how much of a difference there is in the design of the splines and the retaining ring goove on the end of the axle shaft. I expect the groove will be farther down and wider to accept an internal snap ring vs. the external snap ring used on the DOJ joint race. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 In the video: That axle is on the worng way. The C/V is supposed to be at the outer end, the DOJ against the diff. To make Double DOJ axles for EA82: You need a set of shafts from a 85 or 86 model. These are double DOJ's from the factory. However the cups on them are shallow. Using DOJ's from later models will get you more "stretch". The deeper cup you can use are from later EA82 (87-94). For even more depth, early Legacy (90-94) rear axle inner DOJ's are even better. **these joints can also replace EA82 non-turbo inner DOJ's** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbrat Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 In the video: That axle is on the worng way. The C/V is supposed to be at the outer end, the DOJ against the diff. To make Double DOJ axles for EA82: You need a set of shafts from a 85 or 86 model. These are double DOJ's from the factory. However the cups on them are shallow. Using DOJ's from later models will get you more "stretch". The deeper cup you can use are from later EA82 (87-94). For even more depth, early Legacy (90-94) rear axle inner DOJ's are even better. **these joints can also replace EA82 non-turbo inner DOJ's** that's what I'm running on my wagon with the welded diff. laying side by side with stock ea81 axles, they look way longer, but they compress to the same length Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigo1966 Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 Even more great info, Goyal you are correct I messed up when I put that one on. Im going to try to swap my DOJ, and eventually find the 90-94 legacy rear DOJ's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigo1966 Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) What is the difference between the EA82 rear axles compared to the Legacy? Are the splines the same? Are they dual DOJ's? Edited January 26, 2011 by bigo1966 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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