Hi,

 

We drained the oil today and some metal parts came out.  Looks like halves of some  flat spring washer of some sort.  Can anyone identify these parts?  Does this mean my engine is dead?  No other metal or grinding are present in the oil.  One of these pieces cam out on the magnetic drain plug.  I fished 3 more out with a magnet taped to the end of a wire.  Does that account for all of "them" or could there be more in there?  Photo attached.

 

My son needs to drive this back to Utah next week.  Too much to hope that it's something harmless I suppose.

 

I might be able to drop the pan but I'm not sure if I can get to all the bolts around the frame mount without removing the motor.

 

1995 Subaru Legacy L wagon.  2.2L motor I think.

 

Thanks.

 

 

did the 2.2s get magnetic drain plugs?

 

engine oil right?

 

what size are those parts?

I magnetized the plug myself. Parts are about 1" across.

I always run synthetic oil. Oil is free of any metal fine contaminants. Nothing on the magnet. (Except those big pieces)

Edited December 31, 201510 yr by dburton97128

Nothing in the engine that I know of looks like that.

I'd flush out the pan with some diesel fuel, let it drain well.

Fill with new oil and run it for a bit.

 

you could also cut open the old filter and see what's in it.

Larry

Rocker shaft spring washers. I've had engines apart and found them in the bottom of the oil pan. Found half of one one time and couldn't figure where the other half went off to.

Not too difficult to fix. Basically remove the valve covers, then remove the rocker shafts and disassemble them to put the new washers in. 

 

Part number: 13256AA030

#6 

http://opposedforces.com/parts/legacy/us_b11/type_6/engine/valve_mechanism/illustration_4/

Great. Thanks for that. Looks like there are 8 total and all should be replaced.

 

What's the consequence of running without these?

You wont notice any difference, but the rocker arms will wear on part of the rocker shaft support. When you get it apart you'll see the marks it leaves. Eventually (like after 100k miles), it might start to cause an issue, but i'm sure there are a lot of ej22s running around with those washers broken and sitting in the bottom of the oil pan. 

 Well I have been unable to locate these small rocker springs ANYWHERE. Discontinued. 

Valve Spring #13256AA030

 

  I guess those with 2.2s will have to run without them! They break in half over time it seems and they end up in he oil pan.

2 hours ago, SUBARU3 said:

 Well I have been unable to locate these small rocker springs ANYWHERE. Discontinued. 

Valve Spring #13256AA030

 

  I guess those with 2.2s will have to run without them! They break in half over time it seems and they end up in he oil pan.

Nice, thanks for posting. Used or an alternate option is the only source I guess. 

6 hours ago, idosubaru said:

Nice, thanks for posting. Used or an alternate option is the only source I guess. 

I found a few sources that say they have them in stock but they are not in the U.S....


https://www.amayama.com/en/part/subaru/13256aa030

https://partsouq.com/en/search/all?q=13256AA030

The shipping isn't great but they "appear" available. This seems like it was actually a common part used in all the earlier EJ engines.

On 5/22/2022 at 1:29 PM, laegion said:

I found a few sources that say they have them in stock but they are not in the U.S....


https://www.amayama.com/en/part/subaru/13256aa030

https://partsouq.com/en/search/all?q=13256AA030

The shipping isn't great but they "appear" available. This seems like it was actually a common part used in all the earlier EJ engines.

 I have tried 2 of the international wholesalers like that. Came back as not available. They all show 6 available. I think they capture that data from Subaru someplace, but when they go to order, they are not available and I get a refund.    I guess I need to find some old junkyard engines and pull the rockers. But it appears that these are not 'critical' to the engine.

if you can get specs, maybe there's something off-the-shelf that will work?

They look like wave spring washers maybe? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wave+spring+washers&iax=images&ia=images  

3 hours ago, nvu said:

They look like wave spring washers maybe? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wave+spring+washers&iax=images&ia=images  

That is correct.

My first post here, although Ultimate Subaru has been the most helpful in finding answers for the older generation of cars, so I have been lurking and reading for a while.

 

I am doing the HLA cleaning and found a broken wave spring washer.. or discontinued Rocker  spring shaft washer...

I found this description on Ebay: 10Pcs 23mm x 29mm x 0.3mm 304 Stainless Steel Wave Spring Washer for Screw or bolt

Anyone have some thoughts about if they are a BAD idea? Or should I take a chance on spending $10 for what might have a 20% chance of working?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304250517092

Thanks, 

Jase

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