August 5, 200421 yr Author Should not what, remove the emmisions? That and "reproduce in any way with out the written permission of SOA" or something to that effect.
August 6, 200421 yr Frankly, I don't think they would care even if they knew. It's not exactly their biggest concern - being it's a diagram for a 15 year old car that they aren't likely to make any real money serviceing anyway. One of the parts guys at Lithia ran me off a copy of a couple pages from an 84 FSM just the other day. Didn't think anything of it, and neither did he.... You are the kind of parts guy I like Will.... I'll be throwing some business your way soon. GD
August 6, 200421 yr Scan the whole thing, and put it in PDF format. I'm sure we could find somewhere to host it. If nothing else - I'll host it myself. GD
August 6, 200421 yr why not make full copies of all of the old fsm's available online in pdf? The new ones would be harder because of copyright laws. But that would be nice if we could do those as well. Alex
August 6, 200421 yr I doubt Subaru would go for that, but we could hand them out at functions on CD, and swap them via private FTP and such. The real difficulty of course is getting someone to scan them. Very length operation unless you have access to a scanner with a document feeder. Even then you have to unbind an FSM to do it. Doesn't destroy it of course, but it does mean it has to be in a three ring binder for the rest of it's life. I personally wouldn't mind doing it - I have a band-saw, but no document feeding scanner..... GD
August 6, 200421 yr My 81 FSM is steadily losing its binding anyway. Been thinking about having it put in a binder to keep it usable. Once I get it done, I'll get it scanned and pdf'd. Gotta find some good OCR software, though.
August 6, 200421 yr Author shadow....my image looks pretty good....i know that Imissed the major stages of planning due to the equipment i had at the time...slow rump roast comp and no scanner/cam.... I could do myentire 86 FSM+CC supplement by images....what do you think?
August 6, 200421 yr Author I was planning on having an index...and numbering the images by page number and stuff...
August 6, 200421 yr We had a big project going to convert FSM's to searchable text PDF's, but I got deployed and it went nowhere. Just to give everybody a little perspective, my FSM for the 90 Loyale (and I only have 3 of the 4 volumes) runs at least 500 pages. Given that new FSM sets from Subaru Publications can cost $100 or more, having the information online would be a significant breakthrough for many owners. But searchable text (as Shadow suggests) would really help. Why? Because, in case no one else has noticed, the index (indices) in both Haynes and in the FSM are just awful. Word search would go a long way in accessing all the great info in these books (and would probably lead to better repairs because the searcher could review all references in the manual to the problem being taken care of).
August 6, 200421 yr Author Hey Will - do the dealerships have access to anything on CD? GD Yes. the PARTS look up. cant get ahold of that. BIG BIG no no. There are FSMs online....I cant tell you about it yet....yes, ALL of them are on there....from 1992 an up.
August 7, 200421 yr I found a COMPLETE FSM for an '04 STI online..seems someone took the time to compile all the lil PDFs that you can pay for time to get officially into a nice indexed web pageI believe this was the link for those interested.. http://206.13.93.15/STi_Stuff/STi_Manual/index.htm
August 7, 200421 yr There are FSMs online....I cant tell you about it yet....yes, ALL of them are on there....from 1992 an up. If you are talking about Subaru's "TechInfo" subscription site (which isn't a secret), that's where I got several of the Subaru FSM PDF files I have currently. Unfortunately, they don't have any of the 80s Subarus on there yet.
August 7, 200421 yr Author and I dont think they will either.... :-\ This site is soemthing that the dealer gets only....
August 7, 200421 yr well for me it would be great cause I have the 76 FSM and there are so many references to older FSM's that it's not funny in fact the References go back to the 72 FSM for most of it but also I would want to find a non US book for my ea-65 also!
August 7, 200421 yr thats the useless diagram =], my chiltons has that one. find the ones with the colors, and all that, for all the different years, and stick it up on the web somewhere. witout factory service manuals, i had to email around for weeks getting one that was close to the one i needed.
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