WJM Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 What is a REAL dyno then? And, woops, i posted in the other thread, where does mine cross at 5252? I dont mean to sound like an a$$, but im just really curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahDL88 Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 a real dyno loads the engine so that it can be held at a certain rpm long enough to tune it, the intertal dyno, while just as accurate uses heavy weights, and once spinning won't hold the engine at a certain rpm. Where the black and the blue cross thats 5252, it says that its not, but its impossible for it to cross at any other rpm, so either their tach is wrong, or it wasn't hooked up properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Dude, this the the latest mustang AWD dyno. Its got the electromagnetic brake system on it, so it can hold the engine at any RPM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warp3 Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Originally posted by NoahDL88 Where the black and the blue cross thats 5252, it says that its not, but its impossible for it to cross at any other rpm, so either their tach is wrong, or it wasn't hooked up properly. They were using the "calibration" method of calculating RPM (hold the car at 3000rpm in the gear you will pull in (almost all pulls that day were done in 4th) and they click "Calibrate"). This method is easy but there is a bit of a margin of error with this method, thus the rpm scale is skewed a little. :-/ Once I saw how easy it was when they did an run later in the day (on WJM's car) where the little induction sensor thing was attached, it made me wonder why there weren't using that method all day!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 the last 2 pulls we had te car hooked up with one of those probes that read rpm from plug wire. it was ACCURATE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahDL88 Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 we have an older mustang dyno at school that dosn't hold rpm, thats just what i'm used to sorry. at 5252 the hp and torque cross, its part of the formula that calculates hp from torque, if it crosses at another point, that is the 5252 rpm, its impossible to cross any where else, why its not crossing there is confusing to say the least, but it will cross there no matter what, there is no way around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis ex24 Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by NoahDL88 DJ72, why don't your hp and Torque cross at 5252? probably because the dyno chart he posted is from a small block chevy, not an EA82T car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 mine dont cross at 5252 either. the second session, the RPMs were correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailgatewagon Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 sorry when i said JW, i ment JW4x4 i think was his name anyway a subaru guy(suposidly) that had lots of mods on his car he was from alaska or somthinganyway sorry JW i MENT the other JW4x4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahDL88 Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Dennis, it dosn't matter what engine, hp is calculated the same way on every gasoline engine, and diesel too, so no matter the engine size cylinder number or layout the torque and hp will always pass at 5252 and the torque will be higher at lower rpm and the hp will be higher at higher rpms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calebz Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by tailgatewagon sorry when i said JW, i ment JW4x4 i think was his name anyway a subaru guy(suposidly) that had lots of mods on his car he was from alaska or somthinganyway sorry JW i MENT the other JW4x4 So did I.. same guy. New improved board presence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis ex24 Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by NoahDL88 Dennis, it dosn't matter what engine, hp is calculated the same way on every gasoline engine, and diesel too, so no matter the engine size cylinder number or layout the torque and hp will always pass at 5252 and the torque will be higher at lower rpm and the hp will be higher at higher rpms my fault, i mis-understood when you were getting at...but yeah you are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRX Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 love the way these threads just dry up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leone400 Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Originally posted by RedRX love the way these threads just dry up.... Bull**** dries in the sun..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIRA Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 I just read this whole post, man it would be cool if the engine got that much but my better sense says bull, it sounds fake, no EA82T could get that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIRA Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 That much power in an EA engine would rip a hole in the fabric of space time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis ex24 Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 we still have yet to see any real, honest proof of what hes claiming. this thread was started way back...id think you could come up with some cold, hard evidence by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meeky Moose Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 acctually i bet an ea engine with that much power on those little stock motor mounts.. well lets just say i think it would tear them right off car.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj72 Posted January 22, 2004 Author Share Posted January 22, 2004 I'll come up with your (evidence) in the spring. I'm just too busy with work for now, and yes i have had problems with my mounts, and exhaust bolts breaking. So far the axles are doing ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Davis Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Originally posted by Dennis ex24 we still have yet to see any real, honest proof of what hes claiming. I don't think any of the http://www.homemadeturbo.com kids have made over 180 whp with a stock IHI off of one of the EA's. The big ground-pounder cams, fancy valvetrain and headwork, and usual NA stuff range from counterproductive to marginally worthwhile when you're turbocharged. In forced induction, your power output is dictaded by your compressor wheel... if there is some restriction from an unported head, for example, you just make your power at a higher pressure differential. The only time you start fooling around with porting, cams, etc is when you have to increase VE to make more power at "less boost" because you're exceeding the pressure differential the compressor is rated for. Anyway, who cares. Dennis ex24, do you remember a guy from Philly called Suby Dave? Drifts anything he hops into over blind hills and around off cambered turns at 70 mph? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis ex24 Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Originally posted by Joseph Davis I don't think any of the http://www.homemadeturbo.com kids have made over 180 whp with a stock IHI off of one of the EA's. Anyway, who cares. Dennis ex24, do you remember a guy from Philly called Suby Dave? Drifts anything he hops into over blind hills and around off cambered turns at 70 mph? nope, dont recall hearing of him...is he on iclub? i dont think anyone can make over 150whp with the stock turbo, theres just no way unless im missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 75 more hp at the crank and I can do what Dennis said cannot be done.... Just messing, but Id still like to do that. I do have ideas...the cams, crossover and down pipe, smoother intake piping, and turbo to throt. body piping...oh, a secret I stumbled upon, XT6 throttle body, and....well....what else is there...maybe an IC would add 5hp at speed...but i dont know about all that IC stuff yet, i need to do some studying on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baccaruda Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 XT6 throttle body??? spill it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 its BIGGER! But it wont bolt up to a stock intake. I dont know if it a direct bolt up to a spyder intake yet, Ive got some I will try it with, but Ive not had time yet. I also have a free EJ22 i am playing with that I got from the same place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis ex24 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 make 150 to the wheels with the stock turbo and ill send you a cyber pat on the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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