Elroy Jetson Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Old school VW Beetle wheels have a very similair bolt pattern to 4 lug Subes. Are they the same?? Guess you know where i'm goin with this... Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerFahrer Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 As one of my middle-school teachers used to say: "Close" only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and head lice. Though it may be similar, similar won't work in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 ... Addin´ to This, if you look Close to the New Impreza in the Rallys, it got a Four Lug Pattern too close to Subies, but just that... "Close" but wont Work. Only Peugeot did same pattern Rims, I used to have a Nice Peugeot´s on my White EA82 Wagon, they was 13" as Subie´s, then one hit an Enormous Open Hole in el Salvador Roads, it broke along with the Shock Absorber... and I only obtained another Peugeot Rim, but was 14" Instead... That´s why I decide to change the pattern on both my Subies. Is easy to change it to six lugs... (If only I knew it Before :-\ ... ) But I did mines in four Lugs, 3½ Inches, instead of the 4 inches of the Subie. Now I use on both my Subies, 13" Chromed rims, not Off Road but looks Nice! Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 VW = 4x100, Subaru=4x140 GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubaruJunkie Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Yeah they arent even close. -Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Old VW bug wheels were huge, must of been going on 4x200... New 4 stud VW are 4x100. 6 stud jap 4x4 wheels are 6x139.7 and the two studs that line up work ok, but you can see that it isn't quite perfect, the nuts only just go into the countersunk bits. I say anything more then .5mm off and it wouln't work very good at all. So hard to find good-cheap wheels. Almost better off doing hub conversions... either 6 stud, 4x100, or totally changing the hub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 instead of the 4 inches of the Subie. Umm.. arn't subaru 4 stud (140mm) closer to 5.5" like the 6 stud (139.7mm)? 3 1/2".. Do you mean 4x100? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davalos Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 "Close" only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and head lice. I Heard "Close, Hand Grenades & Thermo-Nuclear Weapons" ... but that was back in the 80s ... hehe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P K Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Old 4-lug VW are 130mm. I pondered that one might be able to oval aluminum wheels 5mm out on each hole for a fit to 140mm - but those wheels are pricey (even used) and you need to be accurate to keep centered. Close but no cigar. r/PK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Old 4-lug VW are 130mm. Oh yeah... that rings a bell. Too much hassle I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elroy Jetson Posted July 28, 2006 Author Share Posted July 28, 2006 Old 4-lug VW are 130mm. I pondered that one might be able to oval aluminum wheels 5mm out on each hole for a fit to 140mm - but those wheels are pricey (even used) and you need to be accurate to keep centered. Close but no cigar. r/PK That make more sense then 100mm. i was sure it was a wide pattern close to the subes. Theoretically a machine shop could elongate the holes and countersinks the extra 5mm. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elroy Jetson Posted July 28, 2006 Author Share Posted July 28, 2006 Old 4-lug VW are 130mm. I pondered that one might be able to oval aluminum wheels 5mm out on each hole for a fit to 140mm - but those wheels are pricey (even used) and you need to be accurate to keep centered. Close but no cigar. r/PK That make more sense then 100mm. i was sure it was a wide pattern close to the subes. Theoretically a machine shop could elongate the holes and countersinks the extra 5mm. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodaka Rider Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Yup. I pondered this many years ago when I had both a VW Fastback and an EA-81 wagon. No dice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soobscript Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 I was wondering the same thing when I ran into an old VW wagony something at the yard. 130mm sounds right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted July 30, 2006 Share Posted July 30, 2006 yep, 80s and early 90s jettas, golfs, rabbits, foxs, etc. had 4x100 but older ones, like the beetle, karmann ghia, thing, vanagon, etc. had 4x130 I tried some wheels off of a buddy's porsche 914 (essentially a beetle with a different body) that he was parting out. and it's quite close, but you would need to modify them to get them to fit, and they don't fit on the hub, so you've got nothing to make sure you've got it centered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIRAVI Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 yep, 80s and early 90s jettas, golfs, rabbits, foxs, etc. had 4x100 but older ones, like the beetle, karmann ghia, thing, vanagon, etc. had 4x130 Vanagons have 5X112, like MB, Ford-Europe and audi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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