woundedbrat Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 HAVE DONE THE SEARCH AND JUST NEED VERIFICATION 90-96 ej22 are non interference, newer models are interference. I take this to mean that compression is higher or valve travel greater so that if T belt breaks piston hits valve and bingo bango bent valve or worse is this correct. Also ea 82 front control arm how much longer than ea 81 front control arm ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVOthis Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 very true.....my timing belt slipped a few months back....and i thought my engine was done.....than i saw i had a 2.2...THANK GOD!....yes the 2.2 Liters are non interference and the SOHC 2.5 Liters are (the valves hit the piston) and the DOHC 2.5 Liters are (the valves hit the valves).... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 .yes the 2.2 Liters are non interference might want to edit your post. up until 1996 the EJ22 is non-interference. 1997+ they are interference engines. what do you mean by "best" year? if the interference thing is what you're after then go with the information i just posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 yep, '96 and earlier are non-interference.... '90-'94 Legacies use an OBD I electrical system which is much simpler. requires fewer sensors etc. I used a '92 legacy for my loyale, and am using a '96 imp on my current project. I much prefer the OBD I setup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubaruJawn Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 so 90-94 is best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooparu Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 so 90-94 is best? If you're looking to swap the motor in to an EA body then yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubaruJawn Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Alright! 90-94 it is and a turbo ej22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Style Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I've got a question about the EJ22 that relates to this thread's title. Isn't every year of the Gen 1 EJ22 the same? any variance from one to the other? Why did this dude say he needs one after 92? I just wanna know cause I'm also lookin for one. Knowledge is Power.Thanks. http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/wan/525788984.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 up to 1994 would work fine, a 1995+ would require some tweaking but would work as well. with any motor swap there could be minor differences there are LOTS OF GRAY AREAS with motor swaps...questions like "what year is best" is are really vague. the best year is the same exact engine you got. the perfect easy swap is the same exact year, make ,model, transmission as your vehicle. 1994 EJ22's are not identical in every way to 1995...but THEN AGAIN - in 1995 there are two different configurations...EGR and non-EGR equipped. autos=EGR and manuals=no EGR. then in 1996 they have a single port exhaust where the 1995 has a dual port. then in 97 they go to interference...these are all minor issues and can be worked around though. but it's always easiest to get the exact same engine, model, make, trans, etc. many look-up places, junk yards, mechanics and such do not know all the intricate details to know if it's just something minor to make it work or something much more sinister. so...depends what you're doing which one is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 grrrrr......server..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I've got a question about the EJ22 that relates to this thread's title. Isn't every year of the Gen 1 EJ22 the same? any variance from one to the other? Why did this dude say he needs one after 92? I just wanna know cause I'm also lookin for one. Knowledge is Power.Thanks. http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/wan/525788984.html the OBD I motors are physically identicaly, and the OBD II ones are slightly different. but the biggest difference is the engine wiring harness (the one under the intake mani). the style and number of plugs between the engine harness and body harness changed numerous times, and the plugs are in a completely different place on the OBD II ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woundedbrat Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 Guess the question should have been what year ej 22 is best for a swap into 86 brat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodsWagon Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I think the 1995 Manny Tranny EJ22 is the best. Non interference, dual port exhaust, roller rockers, no EGR. It's easy to retrofit an earlier engine harness onto it to use OBD1. So it's the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Style Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 So, I've gotta find a 95' motor and run OBD 1 stuff from a 94' and earlier EJ22. Gotcha:rolleyes: Still thinkin about the craigslist post:confused: he said no 90'-91 but he'll only take 92 or later.......hmmmm..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 So, I've gotta find a 95' motor and run OBD 1 stuff from a 94' and earlier EJ22. Gotcha:rolleyes: Still thinkin about the craigslist post:confused: he said no 90'-91 but he'll only take 92 or later.......hmmmm..... meh, getting parts from multiple cars is overkill. that would be the nicest combo, but the OBD I motors are still great (my '92 EJ22e has 260k miles), and the OBD II wiring isn't that terrible to work with. also, the only difference between the 90-91 motors and the 92-94 ones are the shape of the engine harness plugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbrat Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 meh, getting parts from multiple cars is overkill. that would be the nicest combo, but the OBD I motors are still great (my '92 EJ22e has 260k miles), and the OBD II wiring isn't that terrible to work with. also, the only difference between the 90-91 motors and the 92-94 ones are the shape of the engine harness plugs. I thought there was something about the 90 and maybe 91, and bending the crank.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnW Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I think 92/3/4 are the best. 90 and 91 have an awful IAC valve that fails more often. 95 has the OBDII system and sometimes EGR. You can install the 96 adjustable roller rockers on any of the motors...a nice upgrade. Send those cams off to Delta to have a grind put on and these EJ22's really move the car nicely. I believe I had them do the mild "220" on my vanagon and I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I believe I had them do the mild "220" on my vanagon and I love it. are you comparing results to a vanagon with a stock cammed EJ22? any idea of what the power/gas mileage differences may be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woundedbrat Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 I think 92/3/4 are the best. 90 and 91 have an awful IAC valve that fails more often. please excuse my ignorance but what is a IAC valve and can it be replaced with a better one cuz there is a 91 ej22 that I was considering for my swap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Style Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Idle Air Control. I donno about a better one, but I do know they're easy to take apart and clean. I've fixed a bunch on everything but Subaru's "I'm new" and the only problem I've ever seen is they stick and don't open/close properly causing a rough, high or no idle. Her's a link with a cool picture. http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h60.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woundedbrat Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 You can install the 96 adjustable roller rockers on any of the motors...a nice upgrade. Send those cams off to Delta to have a grind put on and these EJ22's really move the car nicely. I believe I had them do the mild "220" on my vanagon and I love it. what years came with roller rockers ? and were the adjustable ones different than others I have a 95 2.2 legacey with the auto tranny would this have roller rockers?. adjustible? ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbobdole Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I for one like OBD2... I have a '00 EJ25 in my Rx, and yes it takes more sensors to run... kinda. I left out a bunch, and the thing still runs. Plus I can hook a scan tool up to it and read out the codes nice and neat. I can also datastream it and it's just easier to find out what's wrong. As far as wiring goes, It's not that many more wires... about 9 or so to the plug and maybe 30 overall more then OBD1... but once you're at that point, what's fifty more wires? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Style Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Alright, What about for the most power, Including Turbos. Besides the super expensive new motors, Are the EJ25's worth the extra few bucks? Is there a power differance between interference/non interferance engines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Alright, What about for the most power, Including Turbos. Besides the super expensive new motors, Are the EJ25's worth the extra few bucks? Is there a power differance between interference/non interferance engines? holy open-ended question batman!!! there's no one-size-fits-all motor out there, if there was, it would be way more expensive. there are tons of options, they're all good.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbobdole Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 holy open-ended question batman!!! there's no one-size-fits-all motor out there, if there was, it would be way more expensive. there are tons of options, they're all good.... +1 Very open question... and politics might be safer:-p I recommend the EJ25 engine, I have one in my Rx. Some people will call this engine "trash" or a "different headgasket problem". I haven't had any issues with mine and the fuel milage and power I think are worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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