casioqv Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Later this year subaru is going to announce their high-tech H4 boxer diesel engine. I love diesels, and have always wanted an old wagon with 4WD and a diesel engine that got over 50mpg, but no such thing has ever been made, to the best of my knowledge. My question is this: Do you think it will be possible to install one of these in a EA82 series car using the EA to EJ adapter plate that Allied Armament sells? I expect that in a few years wrecked H4 diesels will show up in junkyards, and I could get a motor for about the price of a VW TDI diesel ($2000). Perhaps I could just make a custom adapter plate and install the TDI itself? 50mpg+4WD+150 hp turbo diesel= the ultimate adventure touring car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeshoup Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 There's no way to tell until it gets released. Also, if you look at the designs for the motor, the Turbo sits below the engine. Custom crossmember maybe? Only time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. RX Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I've heard that it will be a European model only, it's not coming to the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casioqv Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 Bummer, perhaps they will show up as JDM engines... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 still maybe read about it here http://www.autoblog.com/2006/09/30/subarus-diesel-boxer/ http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/subaru-diesel-engine.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baccaruda Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 w00t for turbodiesel! I wonder if the turbo could be relocated for easier retrofittification in the older models... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Unless you plan on spending your lifes savings I reckon you'll have to wait at least a couple of years after the engine has been released into the market before you will be able to pick one up. So by then you never know what there might be avalible to put one in your car.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 I'm sure it'll have the same bellhousing as any other EJ engine. I'd be worried about wiring. the last all new engine they put out (EZ30R) has an immobilizer system built into the ECU/harness, that makes it virtually impossible for the engine to run off the stock ECU in a car other than the one it came in. but I agree...would be way cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi subbie Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 isnt it similar to the ej20 block? i read in an artical where that they say petrol block would be able to handel the stresses of being used as an diesel engine? that artical i read was an while ago tho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeshoup Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 isnt it similar to the ej20 block? i read in an artical where that they say petrol block would be able to handel the stresses of being used as an diesel engine? that artical i read was an while ago tho? Everything you hear now is purely speculative as FHI has really yet to release any specifications on it. As for sharing an EJ20 block, I highly doubt it. Examine the pictures, there is SO much different there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 it may look like it shares a block, but to be a diesel there is so much beefing up that is needed it needs its own sepcific block nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 well, that cutaway shows it having timing chains, so it can't have too much in common with your typical EJ block... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 I doubt it would be a normal EJ block as well.. I don't see a point in modifiying a block when you could build a diesel designed block that is going to do the job much better and for longer. Plus, hows a EJ block suppose to take 20 to 1 compression ratio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testy Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 the peugeot 505 has a form as a deisel 4x4 wagon. Looks cool actualy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casioqv Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 the peugeot 505 has a form as a deisel 4x4 wagon. Looks cool actualy. Wow! I've never heard of that. I'd bet they're impossible to find over here in the states. I found 2 links with more info: http://www.4wdonline.com/Dangel/Dangel.html http://www.garage24.net/0504-5.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 the peugeot 505 has a form as a deisel 4x4 wagon. Looks cool actualy. ... never knew that, interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I have seen a Peugeot diesel sedan in person, but never a wagon. That's very cool. Tangential comment: The one I saw was running on biodiesel made from fish oil. You know how burning used frier oil makes the exhaust smell like french fries? Well, you can imagine the horrid odor that this thing made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy D Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 a turbo deisel!!!!!!!!! thats freakin cool. kinda trendy tho. but would be cool to see. i would bet money on that engine never making i t ot the states....we never get anything cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatswhatshesaid Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 well, that cutaway shows it having timing chains, so it can't have too much in common with your typical EJ block... EZ30R has 'em...it's EJ-based... (Okay, that was out on a limb) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 EZ30R has 'em...it's EJ-based... (Okay, that was out on a limb) um...no, it's not. the only thing similar is the bellhousing. and the concept that it's horizontally opposed. it was completely redesigned, from the ground up. with a completely different bore/stroke ratio to any other subaru motor. the cyl. are closer together (made possible by the smaller bore). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatswhatshesaid Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 um...no, it's not. the only thing similar is the bellhousing. and the concept that it's horizontally opposed. it was completely redesigned, from the ground up. with a completely different bore/stroke ratio to any other subaru motor. the cyl. are closer together (made possible by the smaller bore). Okay. I'll take your word for it. Good to know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleb Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 a turbo deisel!!!!!!!!! thats freakin cool. kinda trendy tho. but would be cool to see. i would bet money on that engine never making i t ot the states....we never get anything cool. Not trendy at all. Lower CO2 emissions, higher torque, lower sulfur than diesel of old, plus you (should most likely) have the option of running biofuels (biodiesel = carbon neutral). All the current press about global warming, and reducing dependence on foreign oil are only helping to make a strong case for bringing more diesel options stateside. At least I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I have a Thread ´bout to Swap a Diesel engine in a Loyale... it is a Project that might come True, see: http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=64687 Also, About Diesel Boxer Engines, and Subarus that came Diesel in the Past (Other Brands, Rebagged as Subarus), see: http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?p=582561#post582561 Any Comments are Wellcome! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi subbie Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 awesum threads. i no this has nothing 2 do with the diesel subaru engine. But i luv that subaru motor bike right at the start. is that 1 made by an person? or is it genuine subaru? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
970subaru Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 there were also vw quantums with the 1.6td though they may not have come as synchro. its possible to build one though. also there was an audi fox wagon(very close to a quantum) with a diesel 5cyl IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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