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Just PM'd you my #, please call me. EZ

If you've got something to add that I neglected to mention, please send me a PM, we'll figure out how to add it in. Thanks, EZ

I've had all of the following on our 97 L. They will all mount up, but it will depend on the offset of your wheels. Go with a Soob wheel, you'll be fine. Craigslist is an awesome place to find used wheels for your ride. 185/70/14 195/60/15 205/55/16 215/45/17 With the Outback struts added to my OBS, 205/70/15 225/60/16 27/8.50/14

Start off in the Dirt To get comfortable with your Soob off-road you need to start off easy. So find a dirt road. The Buddy System is very important off-road, so don't even think about wheeling without bringing a friend's 4X4 too. A lot of the time four wheeling is about driving around the obstacles rather than over them. Look for a trail that's a mix of mild hills, ruts, and gravel so you can get a feel for how your Soob operates. Shift your tranny into 4 lo to get the best traction and keep the speed under 5 mph. Drive forward slowly, choosing the smoothest course you can take, and place each tire precislely where you think it will get the best grip. This is called picking your line, and it usually means looking for, and then driving over, the easiest path you can find. Rockcrawling Rockcrawling is arguably the most technical form of off-road driving. For best traction, deflate your tires to roughly half the pressure you usually use for street driving. (this will vary with the size of tire you have on your Soob.) Take a second to note if anything under your Soob looks vulnerable to damage so you can avoid dragging those parts over rocks. (Y-pipes and exaust especially) While you're out of your Soob, walk over the section of rocks you plan to drive. You want to look for the smoothest path you can take and you also want to find anything hazardous that might damage your tires. After you've picked your line, get back into your Soob and shift your tranny into 4-Lo and into 1rst gear. Roll down your windows (so you can see and hear better) and begin to creep forward following the mental line you've scouted out. Listen for tires scraping and rocks hitting your undercarriage. If the rocks are too big to straddle, you'll want to place your tires on top of them and attemp to drive over them. Be smooth and move slowely over each rock like you were picking your way thru a mine field. If you lose traction, back up and find a new line that may be easier. Mud Bogging Mud is the scariest terrain on the planet, cuz it's always changing. The best advice is to drive around as much of it as possible. When you have to drive through it, pick a line that looks as shallow as possible. Most drivers will shift the tranny into 4-Lo (to keep the engine from bogging down) and use 2nd gear to keep the tires spinning pretty fast. Vehicle speed is important. Drive fast enought to keep your momentum up, but slow enough that you're still in control. You'll want to avoid standing water cuz if you blast thru it you could suck water into your engine. If you go thru it too slow, you could get stuck in the soft mud underneath. When you do get stuck (and trust me you will) try backing out the way you came in, while sawing the steering wheel back and forth to fling mud out of the tires. If that doesn't work, give up and start digging. Stuff anything you can under the tires to get traction. Jacking the rig up and out of the mud can help, but if the mud is deep, most jacks will just sink. If the mud is really soupy, your stuck vehicle will tend to sink. So the faster you can get your rig out, the easier it's going to be.

Here's a list of Stuff to have with you on any given day for wheeling. I took it from what's probably the highest authority when it comes to Off Road. B-4 U GO. Check these items so you may avoid making repairs on the trail. Engine oil/oil filter Tranny Fluid (90 wieght gear oil) Brake Fluid Belts All lights and turn signals Windshield fluid Radiator coolant Tire pressure and condition Tow hooks, front and rear Loose parts, ie: lugnuts, drive shaft bolts, engine and tranny mounts BARE NECESSITIES Bring this stuff and some ingenuity and you will get out of many trail mishaps. A buddy with either a history in long-distance running to go get help, or his own 4X4 Duct tape (fixes everything) Baling wire (prehistoric duct tape) Zip-ties (modern day duct tape) WD-40 (spraying under the disty cap helps start trucks that have been splashing thru water) Ratchet strap (reseat tires, helps hold gear in place) Tow strap (useful if you get stuck or need to be towed home) Leatherman type utility tool and or swiss army pocket knife Warm jacket (being cold makes being stuck and broke worse) First aid kit Jug of water Granola bar or candy bar (food is important to survival, helps you think straight) Fire extiguisher (tough stuff to watch the rig burn to the ground before you walk home) Flash light (hard to walk home in the dark after you watch your rig burn to the ground) Matches/lighter WHAT WE ALWAYS BRING If going wheeling for the day this is a good list of tools to bring Tool bag containing: Screw drivers Pliers (dikes, needle-nose, channel locks, vice grips) Hammer Wrenches Adjustable wrench Socket set and wrench Spark plug socket Test light Prybar Jack of some sort (high lift, bottle, floor- depending on the terrain and size of vehicle) Tire repair kit Electrical tape Allen wrenches Hack Saw PERSONAL STUFF These will make the trip more enjoyable Toilet paper Sunscreen Bug Spray Food and water (no, beer doess not qualify as water) Extra jacket Rags/towels SPARE PARTS These begin to add weight, but it's better than the long walk home Engine belts Axles, front and rear Spare tire Spare nuts and bolts that are common on your rig Fuses Radiator Hoses Hose clamps Electrical crimp kit Lug nuts LUBES Different goo to help you go Oil Brake fluid Gear oil Gas gasket seal or silicone Water WD-40 CAMPING GEAR Basic stuff for staying in the dirt Warm Clothing and rain gear Tent or good tarp Camping stove and fuel Sleeping bag and pad Cooler BONUS STUFF TO HAVE ALONG You can get along without these, but they are plenty useful for trailside repairs Air compressor or CO2 tank Impact gun and sockets Underhood welder Bottle torch for freeing up sticky axles (checking them before hand doesn't hurt either) GET OUT OF STUCK SITUATION STUFF Bring more of these the farther you'll be from civilization Winch or good come-a-long Shackle or two Spare cable Chain (grade 70) Snatch block Tow Strap Tree protector Shovel Ax Gloves Winch bag to put over the cable should it snap 2X12 or small piece of plywood for footing for the jack NAVIGATION If you don't like asking directions Maps GPS Compass CB Cell phone

Sweet pics Scott. More? Stories? I'll have pics of my adventure in a couple of days. Me pulling a Heep outa the mud.

The WHOLE thing? #3 11-19-2004, 09:52 AM Zapar vbmenu_register("postmenu_201892", true); Deicidal Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 City: Seattle State: Washington Age: 37 Posts: 5,482 Feedback: (35) Re: Frequently Asked Questions (help compiling answers needed) Quote: Originally Posted by 4RnrRick How about a lift req'd vs wheel size chart.....? and then use an (*) to show fender trimming.... Make sence.... That's a tough one. I've squeezed 28s under a non lifted soob. Subarubrat has 33s under a 12 inch lift. So the range is somewhere in between. . .

Due to weather, $ and another reason, I won't be making the trip to Walker. Maybe later on this year.

Actually, 10k is about what you need, hardly more than you need. It is recommended that you have 3X the strength of the vehicle you'll be towing with it.I have 16k straps, they don't weigh very much either. 20ft and 40ft lengths.

Didn't you follow the link I sent? That was a great buy. . .

Ken's gonna be riding with me. I'll make sure he takes lots of photos. Weather permitting, I'll bring my video cam too.

I would be one of those members. It's a West Coast club, but Jared is from the Marysville area when he's not in the Marine Corps.

I think I talked him out of it. He needs a 2wd XT like he needs a hole in the head. I broke it down to him like this: 'Dude. Here's you in the morning. "What should I drive? The Turbo Legacy Wagon, Impreza Rally Car, Built Street Brat, Built XT6, or the fwd xt?" ' That's all it took. Sorry Geoffry, had to look after my bro. He needs to get cars out of his yard. Ask his Wife.

I took this pic along the side of the trail.

I for one am planning on some crazy trails. I dont' think there's too many easy ways thru WV. The last time I went I was wtih a group of Soobs, varying in size and capability. We all broke or dented something, it was enough to make me wanna write off wheeling Soobs. We patched up our wounds and our pride and now it's 3-4 years later. Made for some pretty entertaining video. Weld up your rear, you'll be fine. Don't let a little body damage intimidate you. Send me a pm with your address, I'll mail you a free vhs copy of one of my Soob vids to let you see them in action.

Oh. And John Mudrat did that to his AT tranny in the Beast for the Subarubicon. He needed it to run the transfer case out of the rear only. So, it's been done, about 3 and a half years ago.

Mine's a 5 speed. Try this. Put your front tires on concrete and the rears on gravel or something loose. Punch it. Mine will blast off, but the rears will spin some. Harsh, didn't know yours was an auto. . .

If you're good with a clutch and able to listen to a spotter, you should be able to do ok.

I've got my two buddies talked into bringing their rigs. More toyotas.

You'll have plenty of notice.

That's what we're hopin' for. Mud pit and all.

And it's settled. I'm locking this, you guys get way too upset about two vehicles that are hardly worth taking off road. I actually got into a fist fight with a guy over me saying my gen one wagon could out 4X his buddy's baha bug. He got a black eye, we never did find out which car would do better. In the end, 6.7 and 7.3 inches aren't much to brag about. Approach angle has everything to do with success offroading. This was a A&B conversation, Heeps can C their way out of it. And one last thing. Here's one of each, stuck next to eachother in the mud. Neither worth squat without tires.

I'm planning on being there. I'll be bringing my Toyota. It's open still, but I'll manage.

Looks sweet. Can I add a link to this in the FAQ?

I tried it the last two years, Moosey turned me down both times. . . One of these days. . . it's really not so bad out here Paul. lol