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thanks again! I went with a 38 dollar walker part # 18153. 16 inch long and bigger that the ridiculouis 1.75 inch guts of original OEM. The clerk let me rummage through the walker book. It has 2 inch in and out and passed my finger tapping ear test for the same spot that blew out on original (on sube # 2 same summer problem). So I will have it welded in, and go back to a exhaust tip vs tailpipe. I bet I get pulled over before the baby ear killers on a harley before the shop opens again on wednesday....My elderly neighbor is clinically deaf and said "Your car is loud!"-- definately time to fix.:-\ thanks again for parts reference, I did find it for 47 bucks with the tiny tailpipe of oem dimensions at napa with the 2 bolt flange welded and angled , ready to go. It is ashame I can't use it.

Thank You. OEM seems to be just like a cherry bomb.upon analyzing old muffler-- it really needed bigger.The insides were 1.75 or less and too small to get the job done. All i did was make air flow easier at top end to blow the guts out, literally slid right out of the muffler. (clogged pressure?). I went for a fairly long ride and noted that low end torque increased and temperature stays down on longer hills ,etc. and it is quite warm and muggy today. It is just incredibly loud. The only prob I have noted is the smell of blow-by/overfuel. 153k miles and 13 years it is still impressive.I climbed the steepest longest hills here locally without downshift from 5th - normally downshifting.Learned a little something today about exhaust on old my loyale... if i can achieve what it is doing now with a quieter setup, I'll be searching for old 2wd/manual loyales to keep running for a long time to come.

Nice! just what I had in mind I would love to keep it the way it is. For as long as I have heard subarus run this loyale with a glasspack in the middle has the most unique sound, with the muffler bellowing like an ampitheatre. Its like a whistle and bass of high compression and harley motorcycle type sound all in one.I'm gonna record it and post before I fix it. Strangely, I have driven by several sitting police officers and no trouble:eek: Those mufflers with the big tips that every neighborhood gets annoyed by doesn't even come close to what this car does with a bad muffler for free . Thanks for p/n,will check it out. exactly what I was hoping for.Any other cheap muffler while I'm at the question?

Going down the highway last night, something was getting louder and louder and louder .. I pulled into a rest stop and heard rattling at the muffler. I banged on it, and it gutted itself a pipe. Adding more air at top end with a glasspack as resonator does not go well with the oem muffler. What is good aftermarket muffler real cheap.. preferrably "turbo " muffler. I haven't looked locally here but did find this at jcwhitney: http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ItemBrowse/c-10101/s-10101/p-100000280352/mediaCode-ZX/appId-100000280352/Pr-p_CATENTRY_ID:100000280352

This leone/loyale looks like it should with those wheels. Anybody know the manufacturing reason for the 13 inch steel oh too common? Was subaru in financial crisis or what? what is the reason for the little wheels *nobody* likes? The 13s don't even look like they fit correctly...:-\

1981 maine suby going for a sticker? You got real lucky to even have enough car to attempt it! The oldest daily driver Subaru I have ever seen was my own (I mean daily driver non-stop year round) that was a 1987 that finally broke the unibody petrified in 2005. Steel shattered like glass when I took a hammer to it.Good Luck on your '81

holy cow. you were undamaged? I hit a deer with a wagon at 65mph and no damage. I bet if I was doing the 45 you were there would have some nasty pictures of similar damage. "poles don't fly like a deer" sorry for the wreck, rebuilds are tedious

the soob don't like backwards - no air for radiator in correct direction :-\

Took a bit of fabricating on a wheel well- but passed the stringent standard If I drank beer I'd have one

Thanks. That is what I figured. I can assume it is just getting old at 150k+ miles. This boxer designed for the 4wd could be different in 2wd. such as 11:1 compression on regular gas in this lightweight and a bigger intake and cams (duration/lift) would make it an immortal classic. Mercedes has 11:1 on an aluminum v8,running regular gas, proving the cast iron sponge is the high compression heat keeper and flow killer. An aluminum boxer would still have longevity due to the airflow for the cylinders. Frustrating. The top end ratio is very tall. I don't even want to change the tranny. 7000 would be well beyond 115mph and easy to get there.... Not like an old chevy and its options, nothing else I can do.:-\ Maybe fill in the heads combustion chamber with some weld and .... This car is so light the engine doesn't even want to torque with bad fuel . Somethin has got to make up for it somehow, besides weight added

I need to find the trick for the ecu into thinking it is good... 10 ohm resistor? or two resistors one ohm for open and another for closed, pretending to follow instructions.I can't find answer just yet.... I have completely taken egr out of mine and lovin it! no odors, gained power and fuel, engine cooler.....

good idea. mine smelled like a dead animal after sitting!(made a nest-- there was no dead animal) and tree parts flying out of the vents after years of being closed if the fender air duct has an opening on the bottom little critters love it.

"Above 60 mph that plywood on your roof is going to make your little subaru take off" I said "that is ok it has got an airplane engine" and a big fake:lol: After this comment at home depot by the hillbilly standing next to his 4 door eight foot bed pickup truck with a handful of 2x4's (as if god blessed him and his pride of fuel consumption).I slammed my piece of 5/8th plywood on my roof rack today and my 2wd loyale got very powerful. Engine thumped harder than I have ever heard and it took off like a bat out of h*ell. I encountered this last on a 196* hay truck with a gas engine, intentionally low compressioned due to the 10000 lb (5 ton) weight limit. It gained engine strength the more it was weighted-- high compression would have broken internal parts like a turbo with too much pressure.I am guessing my car should be more responsive than this when it is lighter than a 4wd.Am I wrong? Or is it like the engine is for 4wd only? Do I need rings? or 4wd? I have found several places throughout the car that Subaru did to limit my sedan to the 84 hp that the manual states it as being , and changed them.I am sure as heck beating the power of the 4wd n/a, not nearly the torque. Has anyone put a turbo on 9.5:1 2wd? or could tell me a trick to torque this a little more without adding weight? this is summary of what I have done to change oem restrictions (all custom): drilled 2 inch hole in airbox changed droopy rubber intake to harder plastic with a slight venturi still larger than the original boots diameter (got a bellow with action) aluminum piping on several hoses to keep top end cooler fuel damper removed by fuel pump as the fuel pump has one already--(as stated in the 1990 spfi schematic) bosch plugs (no difference really) removed sound resonator, replaced intentionally crushed pipe- added glasspack. more details here: http://93loyale.50megs.com Next step i can think of is even taller tires with a high rating for weight and speed at 185/80/13 (it is a difficult find, but did find at this size "kumho" brand name) it is about all I can think of.. any simply ingenious ideas would be great.

hey thanks. I didn't think it needed it, as there is one at the other end after fuel filter. I am assuming it was there for the fuel filter element. If air is in the line before second damper, the pump would really send a few shots to the filter. It didn't bother the napa filter that is in it, so not worrying about it is in agreement. besides it is set up exactly like a 1990 spfi now...

sloooow down! take a deeep breath. AHHHHHHHHHHH I had all the same problems....took tinkering and time. I would now take it anywhere across the country with 20k more than yours on mine.Priceless motivation is all that is needed. I hope you wired seperate channels for your speakers. EGR is a tragedy waiting to happen, if you believe in oem setup, another car would be an option -- that is your gas smell, among other things.Mine smelled like dead animals, deisel, ether, gas, burning oil-- all while engine consumption was good. Top end heat on the engine gets behind radio at heater box very very hot when it opens, and even when it isn't, it acts as a heatsink to perfectly vapor gas every direction. The pipe coming out of head to intake for the egr turned into a spark plug wire on mine.All of it EGR TRYING TO KILL ME.Passengers got it even worse.That one fix alone made my decision to keep it, rather than give up.I can confidently say that all loyales do it, no doubt about it.for it to be unnoticed by its owner makes me frown to say the least:-\ IF I could buy it I would, lots of life left.I hope you don't give up...all cars need maintenance, the loyales don't ask for much above the norm.

http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/photos/showphoto.php?photo=11545&cat=500 I removed this damper near the fuel pump. the fuel pump has one just as the schematic showed for spfi system.There is only one in the schematic. Is there a reason unknown that I had an extra one in my 93 loyale? I had to remove quickly due to a leak (yearly squirts didn't go away this time). Should I find another or can i go with the 1990 schematic?

hey thanks. My bros nissan sentra is not a planned thought, the car just happens to be available for gadgets. there is resistance measured across a hotwire with some intense math. The volume increased on a sube ea82 would be slower than the oem maf, presumably leaning conditions a possiblity? I am not sure how nissan sensors work , and the element of time to consider with the ecu clock. I heard often with the car brains: "they're basically all the same, attempting a standard". thanks for help, I really want to give the spfi a bit more than it isn't getting, I am in the 30's to 40's mpg and could afford a little less.

The pipes get stubborn as they get older. Keeping the pipe by cutting one end of one connection into the y-pipe and let it sit contently will give an idea of how much it wanted. My old 87 actually made a popping noise to spring less than .25 inch revealing its self battle.Rewelding after the cut lasted a long time for my similar problem.I also ended up with large exhaust studs before the pipe bacame content again. to get the stubborn old pipes to work is a good idea ... they will last the life of the car if you can acheive it, and no burn holes from a good running engine.

Could I use a mass air flow setup from a nissan sentra with a 2.2 L or any car? The size of the oem for spfi is small on the subaru and know it would take much more, like an old carbed one. I read briefly on signals sent to ecu, and don't know about nissan side of things. Japanese car with similar year surprised me with many "alikes". Anybody done this?

very good question. Ironically I am here seeking same question answered. I have guessed the later loyale may have gone to plastic where thier used to be some metal.I remember finding rust on my dl radiator, and noting that the loyale I have did not in the same places. If so, I want the older one..I am sure it would fit. I can not figure out the heat in this loyale and why it is so much hotter, without coolant consumption.It is different part numbers for a reason though..

I have figured the bosch not to be the problem. Figuring the energies results, hot plug, burns fast, more heat to dissipate in less amount of time versus less time to dissipate more heat on a so called cooler plug. <-(does this make sense?) I though it was something slow in ECU until I remembered the DL with hitachi carb I had did the same thing. The real low thermostat (160-180) fixed it forever. I have yet to get this chore done on the spfi. The stuff silent bob did with cleaning is a huge helper too, inside and out.it hit near 85 today and didn't do it all day among my travels- I wonder if it is a sticky thermostat through the 70 degree days :-\ bouncing perfectly open/shut to less flow than on a hot day or cold day.I have gone thru every piece and even doubted the fuel pump, dirty gas, etc, etc.

hey thanks I have some hot bosch platinum in now, would like to work with them rather than take them out. benefits are good. Never flushed the radiator, just added to it after an overheat a year ago.maybe turn air box and intake boot 90 degrees towards the back, and set it up where spare tire is, and put a small scoop on hood (?). no doubt air again, cool thermostat should help. Everything is spotless clean as well :-\ .with airbox where it is, I bet the rotor and tire heat even affects air flow....

hey a follow up to my ping cure: I am back to pinging again, have no clue other than drop thermostat way down.Does it the same as yours Silent Bob. Any ideas? higher grade fuel is absurd for the compression ratio, the problem is elsewhere. My last resort is no thermostat at all for the summer like some of my old v8's that did it(it fixed them- as well as 165 degrees too). I even spent 10 bucks on a miracle fuel injector cleaner/stabilizer and it didn't work also.

What a trip. Everything is bigger down there. How many miles in all was it? Love the pics, awesome challenge in a car that can.I have done similar, non-stop in an old soob, very satisfying venture. Looked like alot of straight road to the horizon.. To say simple isn't better is proven otherwise by motivations like yours.

Just strengthening the lightweight loyale unibody inspired me to think of a bigger engine....that is a big part of the p2. I bet the old loyale would take 200hp+ casually and with strong tight signals,very light in weight and tough...