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Updated oddcomp's MS n' EDIS fuel/DIS

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what this thread still exsists? wow

 

i thot i mentioned msefi to ya at wcss6 noah

as far as i know if you leave every thing else intact and just by pass the injector harness and run it <with the dropping resistor> to the ms box and add the extra sensors requierd for the ms box

then the ignition should be fine

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    I only know that I've done fuel injection every way you can imagine with pretty much every stand alone option out there and the LINK stuff saves a lot of time and frustration. Adding trigger wheels an

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Hey OddComp,

 

Is there anyone else using this setup and driving around with it as a daily driver without any issues?

WooHoo! I am now! At least the fuel part of it. I've still got a little tweaking to the tuning to do, but it runs much better than the OE stuff. As soon as I can get the EDIS wheel connected, then I'll start working on that side of it.

 

It's pretty easy. A weekend project if you buy a prebuilt MS.

 

 

 

 

Hey OddComp,

 

Is there anyone else using this setup and driving around with it as a daily driver without any issues?

well mine is the only full on msnedis setup i know of and it worked great only problem i had was the sudden demise of the transmission i think i will have time next weekend to finally work on it what with all the drama here finally cooling down and this whole whole buying stuff going thru finally

been spending most of my limeted free time keeping the turbo minivan running

i did not realize it was in such not so good shape until i started driving it alot

 

but the good part of the blown tranny is

5 speed swap

spider intake swap

intercooled

hks ssqv b.o.v

 

no actual failures of the ignition or injection system

when i ran edis alone and stock fuel i put well over 500 miles plus a trip to wcss6 and back on it

then logged about 300 or more miles on the full fuel and ignition

 

i do however wish to belive the demise of the stock 230k autotragic was related to the gains from the full on fuel and ignition changeover since it happened almost right after i went and hooked up the fuel side

  • 4 weeks later...

I didn't get a chance to read through all of this thread, so maybe this has already been covered. Aside from the Escort, the Zetec-equipped Contour also uses EDIS-4, so there's another possible junkyard donor for you. The '95+ Ranger with the 2.3/5 is also an EDIS-4 setup, but for that application the EDIS module is actually imbedded as part of the PCM. The crank pulley and sensor however would be useable.

  • 4 weeks later...

bump to the top, cause with a new motor that actually runs, well we'll see once i get a few parts, i'd like a more sealed ignition for the off roading.

  • 10 months later...

wow..cool.. never know that there's such thing..

anyway..this board is full of info..thanks everyone.. :D

  • 1 year later...

Since ive got the MS-2...and some slight problems on the stock disty with the MS-2...I'll be going EDIS-4 soon.

 

*goes to order parts*

Since ive got the MS-2...and some slight problems on the stock disty with the MS-2...I'll be going EDIS-4 soon.

 

*goes to order parts*

 

hmmm....i smell a need for a full-on sticky on how to do this, after the guinea pigs have finished it that is :grin:

  • 9 years later...

Did anyone ever follow through with this?  Is there a writeup?  

Thanks for dragging this one up coronan !

A few people have done it. Best thing to do is research it. Check out www.diyautotune.Com they have a small write up from WJM's old RX on there.

 

I'm actually almost finished with a MS2 v 3.0 system with a Ford EDIS6 ignition system for my ER27. I chose to buy it and assemble it myself so a new soldering station was in order. Still waiting for a family member to make me an aluminum crank pulley to mount my trigger wheel to.

 

I also plan to eventually use the stock distributor as a cam position signal for coil on plug operation.

I'm getting ready to order a megasquirt kit.  There are lots of options.  Can folks describe the Options they are using?

 

Wideband / Narrow band, external gauge?

 

MicroSquirt / Megasquirt?

Knock sensor?

Flexfuel sensor?

MAF + Map?

 

Thanks!

MegaSquirt2 v3.0, MAP based, knock sensor, PNW idle control valve, and an Innovative LM1 wide band 02 sensor setup. Since I'm running the EDIS6, I also needed to mount a crank trigger wheel and crank sensor.

 

Check out www.MSEFI.com

I'm considering the MS route with my newly acquired ea81t coupe. Any recommendations for a setup or options with this thing?

  • 3 years later...

There’s a lot of old thread digging going on recently. 

You can’t just drop us like that Steptoe!! 

Cheers 

Bennie

Got thinking as this fell into my hands from either a Focus or Mondeo taken out of circulation because nobody could supply an accelerator cable - so, it got the snip :)

There is no room to tack a trigger wheel before or after my EA82T crank pulley, and be a bitch to set up, secure a sensor....

What about mounting a sensor securely, out of harm's way on the bell housing, reading off Fuji's timing mark location - the flywheel !

You know, drill a 6 mm hole in bell housing, set engine to TDC#1 drill further, squarely into flywheel.

Set engine to timing reference of say keep it to Fuji's 20° BTDC on #1 , drill again into flywheel

Then you'd need some clever than me to CNC machine the 36 teeth or grooves into flywheel taking into account location if drilled holes...

sort of thing

enlarge hole first made in flywheel to fit crank angle sensor.

Or more accurate/ complex 360 groove base with appropriate ones missing for software to read

Yeah you could do the fly wheel setup. Range Rover did it this way with the P38. So it can be done  you might even be able to use one of these rings with the tabs on it for the sensor to reference, or use it as a template. 

Another thought, can’t fit it inside the recessed crank pulley front face? 

Cheers 

Bennie

 

I think all links above are dead. Gosh, I wonder if Jono can remember his password?

:)

:)

Used to be a lot of UK guys doing this to all sorts of once-were-dizzies style cars

36 teeth with one missing is simpler than Subaru three finger wheels and 36-2 style

One tooth for every 10°

Sounds like fun to tune

Shame can't just jump to that stage

12 hours ago, Step-a-toe said:

Sounds like fun to tune

Shame can't just jump to that stage

Yeah true that at times. But then where’s the fun in nutting it out? 

Cheers 

Bennie

The cam drive cog has 36 teeth

If one could have a tooth knocked out, shaved down and mounted to crank pulley machined to fit...taking up the unused V groove.. I get the feeling a sensor needs longer teeth to read correctly

Now see why those who have done aftermarket control have used the optical dizzy - I think it has 360 tiny slots in its breaker wheel. Better accuracy than 36-1 trigger wheel for certain

 

I’m pretty sure the optical dizzy has 180 grooves, one for every two degrees. 

Im sure you’ll come up with some thing mate, you always do! 

Cheers 

Bennie

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