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#1 toybuilder

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Posted 07 October 2003 - 11:03 AM

For those of you interested in the Phantom Grip limited slip unit there is an article in the November issue of Turbo magazine. The article details the installation into a FWD car. Seems like they like the thing. Kind of expensive at about $349 for a custom unit, but very interesting. They will make one for our front differentials. Anybody planning on getting one of these things? I know it's been discussed here before.

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Posted 07 October 2003 - 12:06 PM

Do you have a web site?

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Posted 07 October 2003 - 12:12 PM

http://www.phantomgrip.com

http://www.turbomagazine.com/toc/

The Phantom grip article is not available online though.

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Posted 07 October 2003 - 12:27 PM

Will they really make one for the front of an old Subaru for $350.

Up front our options are "limited".

That does not sound that bad given the choices........ :brolleye:

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Posted 07 October 2003 - 04:11 PM

Considering a standard rear LSD will go for $300 on ebay with no trouble, $350 for a front diff isnt bad at all.

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Posted 07 October 2003 - 06:29 PM

Well, the phantom grip is a LSD conversion kit. It replaces the internals and turns your stock diff into an LSD. I have it on my Colt and it works awsome. It's great for offroad since it's more like a clutch type LSD in that is doesn't give a whole lot. Mantaray sells them for $279.95, and the 905 appears to fit our cars.

Subaru HITACHI R160 (Open Rear Diff) (green spring upgrade not available) 905-GOLD
$279.95

http://www.mmrusa.com/phantom1.htm

I believe the front and rear diffs are similar enough internally that the kit should work.

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Posted 07 October 2003 - 08:25 PM

I emailed them about using the green spring upgrade with a Subaru R160.

Here's the reply

"dear sir
you can use the tuning kit if you resurface spider gears .
thank you
phantom grip"

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Posted 08 October 2003 - 01:03 AM

if they can do it, and I start getting more hours at work like I'm supposed to, and more time, to start and finish the lift and tires, I'd be into that.

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Posted 09 October 2003 - 03:21 AM

I'm up for both front and rear Phantomgrip (no stock subaru LSd in Israel).
mybe if we'll post a thread about it in the board and then order a bunch of them all at once we'll get a better price.


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Posted 09 October 2003 - 03:27 PM

I'd get one for the front...

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Posted 09 October 2003 - 03:47 PM

I would love to get one for the front! (I have a welded rear) We need to find out if the one for R160 WILL fit in the front. If so then it would be a slam dunk!

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Posted 09 October 2003 - 04:13 PM

They told me NO, on the r160 version up front. Custom part # for our front diff, but no problem for "any" front diff they claim.

Guess we won't know for sure until someone ponies up the cash and installs it....

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Posted 11 October 2003 - 05:52 PM

I mailed them about the RX application, should be the same as any EA82. They relied, saying I would have to mail in my front diff and it would be $349. It looks like they don't have specs for a EA82 front but can and will make one.

BTW, I picked up the mag, the article was interesting...

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Posted 11 October 2003 - 06:21 PM

I don't recall who it was but the guy with the turbo Justy gave these a very negative review a while back. He called em all but useless if memory serves me correctly.

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Posted 11 October 2003 - 09:53 PM

I've heard differently. There is a guy down here with a Nissan 4wd truck, and has one in his front R160, says it works great, and first hand experience is one thing that I definatly go on. And if it works in the front of a Nissan with 33's, should work fine on a Subaru with less than 30" tires.

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Posted 11 October 2003 - 10:37 PM

[i],,,first hand experience is one thing that I definatly go on. And if it works in the front of a Nissan with 33's, should work fine on a Subaru with less than 30" tires. [/B]



I didn't realize you had first hand experience with these Adam. :brow: I'm pretty sure the guy who posted the negative was using his in a rally style application which would definetly not describe your standard tall tired pickemup. Again this is from memory which is sieve like on the best of days :) but I think he had em front and rear with custom R&P sets from Phantom. Again, he wasn't thrilled was the general tone. If they do work well in crawling that would be great. I assume your friend with the Nissan does a lot of crawling. Personally I'll sit back and take my usual stance which is to let someone better funded do the real world test for me. I'ts so much nicer to spend someone elses money,,,makes me feel like the POTUS > LOL

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Posted 05 December 2003 - 04:13 PM

I posted something on this on another forum I frequent, www.tdiclub.com

The responses were not very promising. I also e-mailed Phantom Grip to see if they have something for our fronts. They don't :(

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Posted 05 December 2003 - 08:12 PM

Keep emailing them and let them know the interest is out there. Who knows what other cars share our front diffs.

I am really REALLY considering doing one of these.

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Posted 06 December 2003 - 04:44 PM

don't all clutch pack lsd's just work on a preset load on friction plates? clutch pack lsds dont lock nor do they ever open I thought. In any case you could stuff increasingly stiffer springs until you find the right mix between off-road ability and making the front tires skip on the pavement when turning.




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