axel Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Is there any problem (like oil leakage) using a flat oil pan drain plug washer instead of a crush type washer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebugs Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Im a jamb I'll use copper or aluminum flat washers since they are soft enough to crush a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edrach Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 I'd certainly check for leaks after using a "non-crush" type washer. What's wrong with using a crush washer (p/n 11126AA000)? They are certainly cheap enough. Someone here on the Board made a bulk buy and re-sold the excess on the Board. I bought 20 of them; hopefully he does it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebugs Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 I think they are .53 or so at the dealer. I buy a pack of 6 often. At Advance they are more than a buck or so a piece. Come in a cute little display box made to hang on a large display black/yellow. I wanna say 3 bucks for 2 crush washers. I keep the copper assortment here. Some cars (like a 2003 Acura that I maintain) there is hardly any room for a crush washer or even a wide copper washer. Some of the Chevy's get a copper washer. FYI that's all you got on the air cooled VW's. And hardly the reason they leak oil (lots of other reasons). In my opinion beats nothing or a steel washer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Am i the only one who just forever reuses the old ones.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgambino Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Am i the only one who just forever reuses the old ones.....? Nope...I have been driving subs for 30 years and cannot recall buying even one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Am i the only one who just forever reuses the old ones.....?definitely not. actually when i see crush washer questions i got at first, having never done it and never knowing anything about it. let's see....30+ Subaru's i've owned, driven 45,000 miles in one year before - and i've always reused the old ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenleg88 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 definitely not. actually when i see crush washer questions i got at first, having never done it and never knowing anything about it. let's see....30+ Subaru's i've owned, driven 45,000 miles in one year before - and i've always reused the old ones. hmm.. now that i think about it.. i dont think i even have a washer in there.......................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebugs Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 The quick lube places apparently don't put them on either(if they did they'd probably be 5 bucks). Life goes on without them. I'm usually servicing friends/family or cars to sell. Can't rely on oil getting checked, leaks on ground being reported, etc. Folks don't like to see drips. I prefer to minimize them when possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Am i the only one who just forever reuses the old ones.....? Nope, not untill i got a great deal on a ton of them from here. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenleg88 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Nope, not untill i got a great deal on a ton of them from here. nipper when was the last time that happened? im up for a group buy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aba4430 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 They will last several oil changes, if you do not overtighten the plug. I replace mine every 4 to 5 changes. If you do not have one, you will have a seeping leak, or eventually damage the mating surface by compensating by overtightening to stop the leak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_Dave Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 hmm.. now that i think about it.. i dont think i even have a washer in there.......................... It's probably sufficiently crushed that it's gripping the threads so it doesn't fall off, and the head is smooshed enough that it looks like part of the bolt head. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forester2002s Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I reuse the old washer 4 or 5 times. Then I replace it with a new crush-washer. Not because the old one leaks; it never does. But more out of a sense of guilt: The mighty Subaru engineers have decreed that the washer should not be reused, and I feel that I ought to comply. So I do, but only every 5th time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnceggleston Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 when was the last time that happened?im up for a group buy... 5 for $2.50, 10 for $5.00, plus shipping. lots available. let me know. john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I reuse the old washer 4 or 5 times.Then I replace it with a new crush-washer. Not because the old one leaks; it never does. But more out of a sense of guilt: The mighty Subaru engineers have decreed that the washer should not be reused, and I feel that I ought to comply. So I do, but only every 5th time! yeah, basically that is about what i do, I never really torque the plugs down that much, so they never really squish out of shape. I learned to not overtigthen them, I probably should put some more foot lbs on, but never had a problem in 20 years. usually one new washer for every 5 or 6 oil filters.....thru experience, and not over tightening, can reusue them a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg donovan Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 i put a new one on every time. 2 dollars a year on crush washers isn't going to break the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 5 for $2.50, 10 for $5.00, plus shipping. lots available. let me know. john Thats where i got mine from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericem Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I don't have a OEM pan so i need to find somewhere else to get a crush washer :-\ The actual plug is alot smaller with my car. Either way mine looks to be just a flat aluminum washer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratman18 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I've never replaced one and mine never leak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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