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long travel Outbacks or making Subarus faster and more reliable offroad
idosubaru replied to pontoontodd's topic in Off Road
Nice work and play! Well done all around. Way to show a bunch of weak points and repairs/upgrades. Youre aware of EJ25 headgasket issues im sure? Rod bearings aren't terribly forgiving in those either. Getting that cooling under control sounds like a good move. -
He said. "The hours on that invoice might not be right but we worked all those hours". "Maybe it wasn't 30 hous on the clutch but it was 30 hours on something" Hmmmm
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First conversation while nearly humorous has good signs. He and his worker were notably surprised. Id guess he doesn't have disagreements with many calm, well versed, resolute and prepared customers. He asked what we would pay, but we didn't respind with a number. That was the plan from the beginning, just ask and let it sit. Let him worry about it some more, maybe a week. And we would rather make an offer without his staff around, that way he can tell them whatever he wants to pad and smooth it over with them. If they're around, his pride will work against us. I bet he would settle for $3k-$4k, but my friend is fine with $5k. So should end well.
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long travel Outbacks or making Subarus faster and more reliable offroad
idosubaru replied to pontoontodd's topic in Off Road
If start another thread on maintenance issues. Stalling is often the idle control valve. Clean or swap in a used one. Did the cam and crank sensor codes go away? Is it still arcing? What brand wires? Replace plugs. Those engines aren't very forgiving with plugs and wires. OEM NGK is best or high quality. -
If the pulleys and tensioner were replaced eith the belt then great, sure leave those. There's no correlation between belt and trans, it's financial. There's concern over cash and mileage, id want to take care of the riskiest part of the car, the timing *components*,not just the belt. Timing kit, The pulleys and tensoners fail too. If they do the valves usually bend and will cost more to repair than your transmission. Also call around to some transmission shops. They can swap a transmission really fast. a thirty year old respected trans rebuilder typically known as pricey but really good would install subaru transmissions for $150 (not including fluids or any gaskets or hoses) if you supplied the used trans. Most won't do that but it's worth 5 phone calls to the trans shops in town.
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New timing kit and used transmission. $400 used transmission. $400 install. Done for half the price. Www.car-part.com Any 1996-1999 outback, or legacy with a 2.5 engine will work - Legacy GT, legacy Lsi, SUS, 1998 forester and Impreza RS will work too. I wouldn't put anything into it unless you can also do a complete timing kit. Amazon has gates kits for reasonable price. Interference engine so if it breaks the engine often incurs valve damage.
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So right now it has no codes? i would google search "check engine light flashing but no codes" - but you'll have to sift through miles of them because of the "check engine light flashing" part will bring up a bunch that happen while driving. or creatively filter. EJ18's don't have a knock sensor - so the body side may not have a knock sensor wire - but since it did respond to the new sensor you added it or i'm wrong and it does have the wire? How about check for continuity from every sensor to the ECU....although that should give codes if that was the issue
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Your battery terminals did not cause this. There is no average - those codes will trip again in a day or a year or 3 years. The two codes you had often can go weeks/months before tripping again but will typically get progressively worse over time and then stay on most of the time or indefinitey.
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i've seen that video before, it's actually the same vehicle i think, it's a gas swedish 404.
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most people don't. like i said a very few of them (i think it's suspected it's MT engines that have a different pattern) have different trigger marks. most are the same style so it's not an issue. but the possibility exists so yeah you can either: A. chance it like you did and deal with it if it's a problem (not often) B. investigate first - check both crank or cam sprockets and if they're the same no need to swap C. swap as a rule. since most people are also installing new timing components it's really no extra work to swap them.
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yes, easy. what he said - swap those two sprockets and use the intake manifold in the vehicle. there are two different style trigger marks on cam/crank sprockets - the car needs the style original to it. more than likely the "new" engine is the same - but just in case it's not swapping those sprockets gives you 100% success rate.
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first step wolud be to confirm diagnosis. misdiagnosis is so common i would confirm - but it sounds like you may have pretty much done that with the spark plug damage? pull the timing belt covers and see what happened. new valves and a valve job should be all you need. keep an eye on that cylinder and make sure there's not bits or cylinder wall damage but i've never seen it happen from just a timing belt issue. resurface the heads and block surface while you're at it if you can pull it off.
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Thanks. Got a plan at least, see what happens. Haha thanks for believing even a crazy question nip! I think its a 1968. It's in good shape but not a magazine cover photo.
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Georgia. Thanks.
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Yep replace/repair speedometer or instrument cluster. Odometer moving suggests trans driven gear and cable are good.
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At what point does a shop call the customer to ask to move forward? Or inquire about excessive costs? If someone took a car in making a noise and showed up to a new engine and $4,000 bill....that's not normal, no one does that without some agreement. I'll go and hear them out first with no objective or goal. I want to see their face, clarity, and story. Then let it sit a bit and maybe make an offer to settle it and be done with it BBB? I can't see that helping.
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My best friend took his Unimog to an automotive shop (who said they could do it) to change the clutch. Unimog sites and DIY folks say it's an 8-15 hour job. He supplied all the parts, that's $8,000 in labor alone, like 100 hours. With parts and stuff it's pribably pushing $10,000 total. It's just a basic gas Mercedes engine, not a diesel. They never called with an estimate or got in so far and gave any indications it would be that high. They also scrambled for weeks to give an invoice of time spent, they didn't have one. He is by no means averse to paying for work or even close to cheap. He is the opposite of that. What recourse does he have? He is probably flying me out to help meet with the mechanics.
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that is slowly changing. granted in part because americans are tending towards automatics. but there are some practical indicators too - easy maintenance - no expensive clutch work needed, manuals have enough main and input shaft bearing and synchro and slave cylinder issues that i'm not sure they can be considered "more reliable" any more. better track times and MPG but that's not always a huge difference on average daily drivers so the cost to beneift ratio isn't as clear cut as it used to be.
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I like auto's for towing, they're great to tow with and many people prefer them. manuals are nice in some situations/driving/shifting/grades/loads. but auto's shine for being smoother, and better control with fine movements like lining up, off road, getting/backing into/pulling out of tight spaces and areas, like pulling boats out of challenging boat ramps - an auto is nice on slick, steep, wonky, falling apart, boat ramps for all that same reasons listed earlier- which get exaccerbated on a boat ramp.
