Zip Tie Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I just finished installing my fully rebuilt 95' ej22 into my 91' 4wd 5 speed manual loyale wagon. When I did the first start up there was an unbelievable metal to metal screaming sound. I immediately shut it off and wanted to puke. What had I done wrong? I checked all the pulleys on the new timing set, all good. Rotating the engine by hand I could hear metal scraping from the brand new clutch area. Engine is coming back out. I pulled the engine enough to pull the clutch, all good, must be the pilot bearing. Pulled the flywheel and saw the problem (see picture). The flywheel was rubbing on the engine support. The car had a ej18 in it and never had this problem. How? After looking at the old engine I found rubber covered metal washers stuck to old engine mounts. I slid those under the engine mounts and so far so good. Anyone else have a problem like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Must be an EJ transmission, too? Custom transmission crossmember, I assume? It's possible that the transmission mounts are too low, but I would think it would need to be considerable for this to happen. Are they the same motor mounts? Flywheel? Every EJ swap I've done personally used the EA82 transmission, and therefore flywheel, which is a smaller diameter than the EJ one. But plenty of people have used EJ flywheel and transmission, and I have not heard of anyone having this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I’ve not had this issue and I’m running the EJ22 with the EJ flywheel and clutch sandwiched in front of a hybrid EJ gearbox. My difference is that I’ve got some wedges under the engine mounts to “correct” an apparent angle change between the engine crossmember mount face and that of the EJ engine mount angle. Cheers Bennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyeights Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 What cross member are you using? I have an EJ22 and an EJ 5 speed in a 92 loyale with no problems. As I remember I had to use part of an XT6 cross member (was hard to find). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkyboy Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 When I use the ej starter on mine, the starter gear gets stuck on the flywheel. So the starter will keep spinning even with the key in run. I dunno exactly why, but I haven’t had an issue with the ea starter. Hope you fix her soon is this your first ej swap? If not you already know then, first thing is to mat the gas pedal and sidestep. Taking off in 4hi in the rain is a real treat in an L body with the double deuce, she’ll smash a bmw 325 ix haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zip Tie Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Numbchux said: Must be an EJ transmission, too? Custom transmission crossmember, I assume? It's possible that the transmission mounts are too low, but I would think it would need to be considerable for this to happen. Are they the same motor mounts? Flywheel? Every EJ swap I've done personally used the EA82 transmission, and therefore flywheel, which is a smaller diameter than the EJ one. But plenty of people have used EJ flywheel and transmission, and I have not heard of anyone having this issue. The car was originally built by FerGloyle with a 93 ej18. I have no idea what cross member is in there though. FerGloyle told me the transmission is a hybrid (early 90's legacy case with loyale gears), that's why it doesn't have an adapter. Once I found the metal/rubber washer I haven't had any issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Tie Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 I also re-used the flywheel off the ej18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I found the image of what I did with the angle change I was talking about: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img401/9123/p7281486.jpg This was over ten years ago and I’m still running the same engine mounts. The EJ18 flywheel won’t make a difference, it’s still the same diametre. It might be lighter though. Glad you got it sorted! Cheers Bennie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I found the image of what I did with the angle change I was talking about: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img401/9123/p7281486.jpg This was over ten years ago and I’m still running the same engine mounts. The EJ18 flywheel won’t make a difference, it’s still the same diametre. It might be lighter though. Glad you got it sorted! Cheers Bennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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