May 10, 200916 yr Is there any problem (like oil leakage) using a flat oil pan drain plug washer instead of a crush type washer?
May 10, 200916 yr Im a jamb I'll use copper or aluminum flat washers since they are soft enough to crush a bit.
May 10, 200916 yr I'd certainly check for leaks after using a "non-crush" type washer. What's wrong with using a crush washer (p/n 11126AA000)? They are certainly cheap enough. Someone here on the Board made a bulk buy and re-sold the excess on the Board. I bought 20 of them; hopefully he does it again.
May 10, 200916 yr I think they are .53 or so at the dealer. I buy a pack of 6 often. At Advance they are more than a buck or so a piece. Come in a cute little display box made to hang on a large display black/yellow. I wanna say 3 bucks for 2 crush washers. I keep the copper assortment here. Some cars (like a 2003 Acura that I maintain) there is hardly any room for a crush washer or even a wide copper washer. Some of the Chevy's get a copper washer. FYI that's all you got on the air cooled VW's. And hardly the reason they leak oil (lots of other reasons). In my opinion beats nothing or a steel washer.
May 11, 200916 yr Am i the only one who just forever reuses the old ones.....? Nope...I have been driving subs for 30 years and cannot recall buying even one
May 11, 200916 yr Am i the only one who just forever reuses the old ones.....?definitely not. actually when i see crush washer questions i got at first, having never done it and never knowing anything about it. let's see....30+ Subaru's i've owned, driven 45,000 miles in one year before - and i've always reused the old ones.
May 11, 200916 yr definitely not. actually when i see crush washer questions i got at first, having never done it and never knowing anything about it. let's see....30+ Subaru's i've owned, driven 45,000 miles in one year before - and i've always reused the old ones. hmm.. now that i think about it.. i dont think i even have a washer in there..........................
May 11, 200916 yr The quick lube places apparently don't put them on either(if they did they'd probably be 5 bucks). Life goes on without them. I'm usually servicing friends/family or cars to sell. Can't rely on oil getting checked, leaks on ground being reported, etc. Folks don't like to see drips. I prefer to minimize them when possible.
May 11, 200916 yr Am i the only one who just forever reuses the old ones.....? Nope, not untill i got a great deal on a ton of them from here. nipper
May 11, 200916 yr Nope, not untill i got a great deal on a ton of them from here. nipper when was the last time that happened? im up for a group buy...
May 11, 200916 yr They will last several oil changes, if you do not overtighten the plug. I replace mine every 4 to 5 changes. If you do not have one, you will have a seeping leak, or eventually damage the mating surface by compensating by overtightening to stop the leak.
May 11, 200916 yr hmm.. now that i think about it.. i dont think i even have a washer in there.......................... It's probably sufficiently crushed that it's gripping the threads so it doesn't fall off, and the head is smooshed enough that it looks like part of the bolt head. Dave
May 11, 200916 yr I reuse the old washer 4 or 5 times. Then I replace it with a new crush-washer. Not because the old one leaks; it never does. But more out of a sense of guilt: The mighty Subaru engineers have decreed that the washer should not be reused, and I feel that I ought to comply. So I do, but only every 5th time!
May 11, 200916 yr when was the last time that happened?im up for a group buy... 5 for $2.50, 10 for $5.00, plus shipping. lots available. let me know. john
May 11, 200916 yr I reuse the old washer 4 or 5 times.Then I replace it with a new crush-washer. Not because the old one leaks; it never does. But more out of a sense of guilt: The mighty Subaru engineers have decreed that the washer should not be reused, and I feel that I ought to comply. So I do, but only every 5th time! yeah, basically that is about what i do, I never really torque the plugs down that much, so they never really squish out of shape. I learned to not overtigthen them, I probably should put some more foot lbs on, but never had a problem in 20 years. usually one new washer for every 5 or 6 oil filters.....thru experience, and not over tightening, can reusue them a lot.
May 11, 200916 yr i put a new one on every time. 2 dollars a year on crush washers isn't going to break the bank.
May 11, 200916 yr 5 for $2.50, 10 for $5.00, plus shipping. lots available. let me know. john Thats where i got mine from
May 11, 200916 yr I don't have a OEM pan so i need to find somewhere else to get a crush washer :-\ The actual plug is alot smaller with my car. Either way mine looks to be just a flat aluminum washer.
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