Needed some better lighting for my new garage. As it yet only has 4 overhead screw-in lamps, opted to upgrade to these:

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200679033_200679033?cm_mmc=Housefile-_-RECEIVED-_-707-_-CONF

 

 

Do you have them yet? How do you like them?

34 minutes ago, Crazyeights said:

Do you have them yet? How do you like them?

It'll be a couple weeks before I can try them out.

I'll try to get before & after pics - if I still remember to.

I put LEDs in our basement and what is there to say - it’s a light bulb and it makes light!  They didn’t make a dramatic improvement alone, for my space I would need more/bigger lights to fill out the area for more consistent/detailed work but my basement is storage so I don’t need that. Can dial in the color and brightness you want.  I put a motion detecting one above the storage/freezer area so no switch is needed. 

in the garage/shop I converted/replaced all the 4’ fluorescents to LEDs and they’re awesome:

https://www.amazon.com/Hyperikon-Dual-End-Fluorescent-Replacement-Warehouse/dp/B00SSNPI80/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1538883203&sr=8-1-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=fluorescent+led+replacement&psc=1

Maybe with incadescents it doesn’t matter but They’re not impacted by ambient temps like fluorescents are. 

Edited October 7, 20187 yr by idosubaru

Some comparative figures for you

https://greatercea.org/lightbulb-efficiency-comparison-chart/

8 hours ago, czny said:

Some comparative figures for you

https://greatercea.org/lightbulb-efficiency-comparison-chart/

oh yeah, i get that, i've upgraded tons of mine to LED, you didn't say you were doing it for efficiency but better lighting. i get that you can get more bright with less/same watts though.

that bulb you picked is going to be awesome, i've got a few like 20 watters or something and they'll make me see red and blue if i stare at them too long.  very sharp. 

Yeah, higher the lumens the higher the price too.

"Diamond plate" shop lights of advertised 10k lumen 4 footers:

https://www.ruralking.com/4-led-shop-light-10-000l-chrome?utm_medium=email&utm_source=2018-10-07+Whats+Hot&utm_campaign=27100044&utm_contnet=27100044&_bta_tid=32259870115476410414092769077956769598026446718742119450761235058598424239696786977331067106111512431209

And advertised 4500 lumen 4 footers:

https://www.ruralking.com/4-led-shop-light-4500-lumens?utm_medium=email&utm_source=2018-10-07+Whats+Hot&utm_campaign=27100023&utm_contnet=27100023&_bta_tid=00379131375476410414092769077956769598026446718742119450761235058598424239697096462340888451180237212265

I'm betting I'll still need drop lights for under carriage work with these aging eyes. Ha ha!

 

Edited October 7, 20187 yr by czny

i originally had T8 fluorecent bulbs in my garage but was slowly changing them for LED when they started acting up, unfortunately i discontinued the project due to Lowes and Homedepot discontinuing the Utilitech brand on LED fluorecent T8 replacements, they now carry GE T8's, but the problem is those require electricity from both sides with a ballast even though the ballast doesn't do anything for it but still requires it while the utilitech was wired differently, i gave up on all the nonsense and did this instead.

i ended up just getting 12 light sockets and screwed them to the ceiling ($1.19 each) and buying 12 100W (they are actually 13W Each) LED at 5,000K for my 2 Car garage even though it's 3 cars wide, and it's more than enough, project cost me below $60. way cheaper than those LED T8's or T12's tubes plus the assemblies, and replacing them is super easy incase i ever break one or one goes out years from now, i do have to say it's like a studio now with the amount of lighting, no shadows anywhere either, might have gone too far with it though, but after a few minutes of being in the garage i get used to it.

hope this helps, took me a while to figure out this simple inexpensive solution, works out great and im extremely happy with it, the hardest thing about this project is the wiring but it's not hard, just time consuming.

if you're curious as to how much power this draws...   (12) 100w LED bulbs=156w/120v=1.3A

Edited October 29, 20187 yr by Subasaurus

On 10/6/2018 at 7:26 PM, Crazyeights said:

Do you have them yet? How do you like them?

I like them fine. Wasn't enough room at one lamp socket because of rolling door bracket but 3 lamps are just fine.

Before with std LED bulbs. Yeah, cellphone didn't focus well. Vapor from my breath in sub-freezing air confuses camera autofocus

After, notice shadows are sharper.

Will be hanging 4ft LED lights over work areas too - when I get my benches, machinery, welders & rollaways in place.

 

 

spray painting the interior of the garage white will make a HUGE difference.

21 minutes ago, 1 Lucky Texan said:

spray painting the interior of the garage white will make a HUGE difference.

After putting insulation & drywall up first.

And an overhead space heater or two.....

Edited December 21, 20187 yr by czny

On 12/21/2018 at 12:16 PM, czny said:

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Will be hanging 4ft LED lights over work areas too - when I get my benches, machinery, welders & rollaways in place.

 

 

 

I have 6 of the 4 ft. LED fixtures hanging in my single bay garage.   Bi-Mart has them right now for 25.99!  I paid 32.99 last year when they where "on sale"  could have saved 30 bucks but then I'd have not had them all this year lol.

 

I move them onto the sides of the walls when I do paint spray in there.

1 hour ago, FerGloyale said:

 

I have 6 of the 4 ft. LED fixtures hanging in my single bay garage.   Bi-Mart has them right now for 25.99!  I paid 32.99 last year when they where "on sale"  could have saved 30 bucks but then I'd have not had them all this year lol.

 

I move them onto the sides of the walls when I do paint spray in there.

Here are similar 4 ft'ers:

https://www.ruralking.com/4-led-shop-light-5500-lumens?trk_msg=LOJC4K3P74RKJECJNG73V27R9S&trk_contact=E8JCHBIQHA1A29S9VMGK0VU9US&trk_sid=PLKD7MS0MULMETQIPDK531SOHO&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=27100054&utm_campaign=January+2019&utm_content=2019-01-26+Hardware

 

They sure are bright and energy efficient. Does anyone find that their eyes feel like they're dry and burning after being under LED's for more than an hour or so?

Can't say I have that problem.  It sure is nice in this cold weather to have LEDs versus the failing fluorescent lamps that get grouchy in the cold, rarely even lighting all the way.

some people might be sensitive to the 60Hz flickering - much less significant with incandescent bulbs.

 

or you're sensitive to a different output spectra ?????

The human eye can't even really detect 60Hz, things start to blur into smooth motion around 24Hz.

true for most people, there still seems to be some studies ongoing for a small number of folks that might 'react' to light flicker. Incandescent filaments have too much mass to cool-off much. Fluorescents might dim to 35% of max. LEDs can dim to under 10% of max so, the effect might be sufficient to cause some subconscious issue with a few people. And if LEDs are used on a circuit with an improper dimmer, there can be other issues.

there's a lot of variables though, spectra, type of circuit control used, intensity, mix of natural light, etc.

On 2/19/2019 at 12:59 PM, 1 Lucky Texan said:

true for most people, there still seems to be some studies ongoing for a small number of folks that might 'react' to light flicker. Incandescent filaments have too much mass to cool-off much. Fluorescents might dim to 35% of max. LEDs can dim to under 10% of max so, the effect might be sufficient to cause some subconscious issue with a few people. And if LEDs are used on a circuit with an improper dimmer, there can be other issues.

there's a lot of variables though, spectra, type of circuit control used, intensity, mix of natural light, etc.

yup, my gf can detect without actually studying it if they're fluorescent or LED converted, it starts giving her a headache if she's in an office place with fluorescent after about 20minutes.

it's like that thing where it's impossible for people to detect atmospheric pressure change in weather on your body, but i feel it in my broken finger and my right hip. My gf feels it on her arm since she broke it 10 years ago.

weird stuff.

there is a fast twitch eye movement called a saccade that can allow for flicker detection above the typical 120hz of room lighting.

something like 1 in 4,000 people may be able to sense flicker as high as 2K . Much depends on the lighting conditions, contrast, etc.

http://theconversation.com/the-scientific-reason-you-dont-like-led-bulbs-and-the-simple-way-to-fix-them-81639

 

 

Ohhh, did someone mention lights? 

The ones high on the back wall are still florescent, the rest are LED

Cant have enough light when your eyes are getting old

 

Nice shop Rob! You have done well

Thanks, I need to spend some time organizing

And prob a few dump runs lol