mikeshoup Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 My EA81 Turbo Wagon's tach is sticking when cold. I'll start the car, and the tach will read 0, and the engine is obviously running. I'll start driving the car, and it'll bounce up to 2k and stay there. Sometimes it goes back to 0. If I drive it for about 20 minutes, it unsticks itself and starts operating normally. On warmer days, it didn't do this. Is this a common problem? Is there a way I can remedy this? If I need to replace the tach, is the unit itself replaceable without having to replace the whole dash? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsutomu Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 same thing happens to me, but it doesnt bother me too much. But if there is a way to fix it that would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durania Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 +3 on that one, my brat does it as well. Someone has gotta know the remedy for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvexplorer Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Almost the same but not quite. My Speedometer always sticks a little. If I hold the speed steady for long enough it will eventually creep its way up to it, and decelerating it takes a while to return to 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet82 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 If your Tac is not reading then is your car really running? If a Tree falls in the forest....:rolleyes: never mind, these cold pills are really messing me up... Summer and Mad Max do this all winter long.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NV Zeno Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Mine's been doing that for years. Not been a problem, but sometimes to unstick the needle, I'll whack the top of the dash with the palm of my hand (not too hard) after warmed up. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Just my 2 bucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakoTGrimes Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 A few drops of Tri-Flow where the needle connects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodaka Rider Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 A few drops of Tri-Flow where the needle connects? Maybe, I think that's the right idea, anyways. My theory was that a slight bit of moisture was in the tach head, and cold enough weather would freeze it temporarily. Never did take it apart, but moisture-chasing lube may fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NV Zeno Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I've found that it's plain just not worth the effort to crawl and reach under there..it's not that big a deal. Just my 2 bucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Dain Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Dude, It's a Subaru thing...! My EA81 Brat does quarky things in freezing temps too. Famous Head Truama, inc. qoute for non-soob owners, "It's a Subaru thing, you wouldn't understand..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durania Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 So what is the verdict on how to fix this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyewdall Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 My '84 wagon did that too -- on really cold days, you could drive a few miles before the tach would get above 0. Then all of a sudden it would work fine. I thought it was a electrical connection problem down by the coil getting moisture in it or something, but maybe lubrication or moisture in the tach head? Could it possibly be the same problem source as with the slow speedometer response? The speedo on my 89 GL only vaguely indicates road speed when it's cold out. And, always check to see if the pack rats haven't chewed almost completely through the tach wire -- that's what they did on my truck. One "solution" Drill a small hole in the y-pipe, then the engine will be loud enough to have an audio tachometer.... That's the reason I never worried about the tach on the '84 wagon -- I could hear it. The 89 is so quiet that I do need the tach though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 The greese or lube on the needle gets really thick when cold, and it may have some dirt in it. My 1987GL would do it too untill the inside of the car warmed up. As somone who would calibrate gauges for a living, the tach in a car is rather delicate, especially where the shaft is for the needle (being electronic) One of two things is happening, either its the lube, or the coil that moves the needle is getting weak. Either way its very hard to fix. Three drops of lube is probably 2.80 drops too many. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott F Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 It's ironic that you would post this. Today I noticed this problem for the first time on my new to me 84 BRAT. It has been "cold" here in SoCal, close to freezing. Once I drove for a few miles it started working again. I will see if it does it again tomorrow morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82glsw Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 my 82 gl wagon does the same thing but it doesnt bother me enough to worry about fixing it. if you know how to drive stick you dont need it anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeshoup Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 Its not the point of whether or not I need it. I want it. I like to be able to verify that the fast idle is working when I first start it up. I like to have everything on my dash functioning properly. I don't like to see a needle pointing to 0. Also, mine doesn't always pick back up. On a 10 minute drive to work, it usually hasn't started working again. Kinda bugs me. But since it doesn't sound like there really is an easy fix, I'll live with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durania Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Thats exactly how I feel about a check engine light. Everyone says:"just put some tape over it". Thats not the point, its on for a reason not just to bug the crap out of you. Some of these charter members has gotta have a sure fire way to fix this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 See if you can get one from a junkyard, it doesnt have to work. Take it apart and see how it works, then decide if you can tackle the problem. And i agree about the tpae on the CEL, it can do more harm then good. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeshoup Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 Does the tachometer separate from the rest of the cluster? I'm sure a tach would be cheaper than a whole gauge cluster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Does the tachometer separate from the rest of the cluster? I'm sure a tach would be cheaper than a whole gauge cluster. in all honesty i don't remember, its been a while ....... anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheaT_BeeR_MaN Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 well this helped nothing other then to know it goes away for everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Uhhh, my tach just started doing this... Anyone figured out a soultion yet? Anyone have a NOS tach sitting around? I'm 90% sure the tach and speedo, if not all the gauges, are removable from the cluster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank B Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 (edited) Is there any noise associated with it? A hatchback I had did this when it was cold, then it would jump around. But there was a screetching from the distributor. The shaft and bushings were worn enough that the shaft would chatter while spinning. Edited December 12, 2009 by Frank B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBG Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I don't know about the tach, but I do know about the speedometer. The cable that comes up from the transaxle has seals that routinely fail, and the gear oil from the transaxle case will work it's way up the cable and into the speedo housing. It's also why your car can start smelling like gear oil for no real reason... Dash pulling fun, and a fair bit of electrical cleaner can change the sticky speedo, I'd guess that the oil can get into everything in the instrument cluster and muck it all up. Never had a tach fail me yet, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAP Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 I don't know about the tach, but I do know about the speedometer. The cable that comes up from the transaxle has seals that routinely fail, and the gear oil from the transaxle case will work it's way up the cable and into the speedo housing. It's also why your car can start smelling like gear oil for no real reason... Dash pulling fun, and a fair bit of electrical cleaner can change the sticky speedo, I'd guess that the oil can get into everything in the instrument cluster and muck it all up. Never had a tach fail me yet, though. Gotta love the gear oil smell. I never would have thought it came from that. We should have a thread on suby only smells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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